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  • prakki surya
    The divine knowledge consists of two parts 1) If you are in Pravrutti only, you can attain your self by the self-realization. In this you will be fixed in the
    Message 1 of 2 , Oct 12, 2005
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      The divine knowledge consists of two parts 1) If you are in Pravrutti only, you can attain your self by the self-realization. In this you will be fixed in the self and get detached from the both subtle and gross bodies. By this all the bonds related to gross body and related to feelings (Subtle body) or cut off and you will attain the eternal peace. All your worries, anxiety, tensions, misery, mental pain, dissatisfaction, confusion etc., will disappear forever. You will live with perfect peace through out your life. Peace is your property, which is the characteristic of your soul. You have to think that you are the pure awareness, which is stand still (called as Atman or soul). When you are attached to the gross body or subtle body (Mind), you have lost the peace. If you are attached to the casual body (soul), you have gained your lost peace.

       

      2) In Nivrutti you attain the Lord who has come in the human form for your sake to give the bliss. Bliss is only the characteristic of Lord as said in Veda (Anando Brahma……). Veda also says that the Lord alone can give bliss to the soul (Eshahyeva Anandayati……). Bliss is not characteristic of the soul. Your property is only the golden chain and not the diamond necklace. You should not think that peace is bliss. By your effort you can attain only peace but not the bliss. You can get the bliss only by nearing yourself to Sadguru who is the human incarnation. You can get the cool breeze when you are near the sea on the shore. If you are in the house, you have avoided the hot sun. By attaining the soul you have come to zero from minus, but that is not plus. Zero is within your self and bliss is from external agency. When you have attained what you have, it is avoiding loss, which can give only peace but not the bliss.

      Thus, the divine knowledge of Sadguru gives you atleast peace, which is the earth, if not the bliss, which is the sky. He will give you the knowledge of Atman to give peace. This is essential requirement for any one in this world. A few blessed people can also get the bliss if they realise that the Sadguru is the Lord Himself. Therefore, you must utilise the full freedom given to you in this human birth and you must destroy all your sins permanently through Nivrutti only. You should be very active to use this unlimited freedom with in the limited span of lifetime. When you leave this gross body and go to upper worlds you have no freedom at all and those upper worlds hence are called as " Bhoga Loka" which mean that they are the worlds in which the results are to be enjoyed without any freedom. This earth is called as "Karma Loka" which means the world in which you are given full freedom to do any thing. You are given the opportunity to receive the divine knowledge here and if you practice it by determination, your entire fate is changed here and there also.

      The sages did long penance and sat in the process of self-realization for several ages. They obtained peace of the self but not bliss of the Brahman. Then they realized and approached Lord Krishna as Gopikas for the bliss, which they got in Brindavanam in the vicinity of the Lord (Sayujyam). You can smile or laugh with bliss only by attaining the Lord in human form. You can get atleast a shadow of the bliss by remembering the Lord. But without any external agency you cannot get happiness or bliss. If you are peaceful and silent, no body will ask you the reason but if you are laughing and dancing in bliss stating that there is no external reason for it, it is unnatural and people will admit you in the mental hospital.

       

      at the lotus feet of shri datta swami

      surya




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    • Jeff Belyea
      ... Pravrutti only, you can attain your self by the self-realization. In this you will be fixed in the self and get detached from the both subtle and gross
      Message 2 of 2 , Oct 12, 2005
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        --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, prakki surya
        <dattapr2000@y...> wrote:
        >
        >
        > The divine knowledge consists of two parts 1) If you are in
        Pravrutti only, you can attain your self by the self-realization. In
        this you will be fixed in the self and get detached from the both
        subtle and gross bodies. By this all the bonds related to gross body
        and related to feelings (Subtle body) or cut off and you will attain
        the eternal peace. All your worries, anxiety, tensions, misery,
        mental pain, dissatisfaction, confusion etc., will disappear forever.
        You will live with perfect peace through out your life. Peace is your
        property, which is the characteristic of your soul. You have to think
        that you are the pure awareness, which is stand still (called as
        Atman or soul). When you are attached to the gross body or subtle
        body (Mind), you have lost the peace. If you are attached to the
        casual body (soul), you have gained your lost peace.
        >
        >
        >
        > 2) In Nivrutti you attain the Lord who has come in the human form
        for your sake to give the bliss. Bliss is only the characteristic of
        Lord as said in Veda (Anando Brahma……). Veda also says that the Lord
        alone can give bliss to the soul (Eshahyeva Anandayati……). Bliss is
        not characteristic of the soul. Your property is only the golden
        chain and not the diamond necklace. You should not think that peace
        is bliss. By your effort you can attain only peace but not the bliss.
        You can get the bliss only by nearing yourself to Sadguru who is the
        human incarnation. You can get the cool breeze when you are near the
        sea on the shore. If you are in the house, you have avoided the hot
        sun. By attaining the soul you have come to zero from minus, but that
        is not plus. Zero is within your self and bliss is from external
        agency. When you have attained what you have, it is avoiding loss,
        which can give only peace but not the bliss.
        >
        > Thus, the divine knowledge of Sadguru gives you atleast peace,
        which is the earth, if not the bliss, which is the sky. He will give
        you the knowledge of Atman to give peace. This is essential
        requirement for any one in this world. A few blessed people can also
        get the bliss if they realise that the Sadguru is the Lord Himself.
        Therefore, you must utilise the full freedom given to you in this
        human birth and you must destroy all your sins permanently through
        Nivrutti only. You should be very active to use this unlimited
        freedom with in the limited span of lifetime. When you leave this
        gross body and go to upper worlds you have no freedom at all and
        those upper worlds hence are called as " Bhoga Loka" which mean that
        they are the worlds in which the results are to be enjoyed without
        any freedom. This earth is called as "Karma Loka" which means the
        world in which you are given full freedom to do any thing. You are
        given the opportunity to receive the divine knowledge here and if you
        > practice it by determination, your entire fate is changed here and
        there also.
        >
        > The sages did long penance and sat in the process of self-
        realization for several ages. They obtained peace of the self but not
        bliss of the Brahman. Then they realized and approached Lord Krishna
        as Gopikas for the bliss, which they got in Brindavanam in the
        vicinity of the Lord (Sayujyam). You can smile or laugh with bliss
        only by attaining the Lord in human form. You can get atleast a
        shadow of the bliss by remembering the Lord. But without any external
        agency you cannot get happiness or bliss. If you are peaceful and
        silent, no body will ask you the reason but if you are laughing and
        dancing in bliss stating that there is no external reason for it, it
        is unnatural and people will admit you in the mental hospital.
        >
        >
        >
        > at the lotus feet of shri datta swami
        >
        > surya
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > SURYA
        > surya@u...
        > www.universal-spirituality.org
        >
        >
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        This is really beautiful.
        It is a lovely model for
        making subtle distinctions.
        Sweet nectar rushes over
        the taste buds just reading it,
        and feeling the heart resonate
        with its truth is...blissful.

        Thanks for posting this, surya.

        "Those who cannot hear the
        music think that those who
        are dancing are crazy."

        from The Rhythm of Life,
        by Matthew Kelly


        Jeff
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