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  • Shakeel Murad
    Dear Subhash, Thanks for your reply.Some deciples have told me that they have met their gurus{masters} physically after the death of their gurus.How it happens
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      Dear Subhash,
      Thanks for your reply.Some deciples have
      told me that they have met their gurus{masters}
      physically after the death of their gurus.How it
      happens or is it possible?
      Waiting for your reply
      With love
      Dr.Shakeel

      --- subhash naik <sbhshnaik@...> wrote:

      > --- Shakeel Murad <doctor_shakeel@...> wrote:
      > Dear Dr.Shakeel,
      > NO you can experience it. Here I am giving you
      > another article about transmission please go
      > through.
      > Regards.
      >
      >
      > Do We Feel Transmission?
      >
      > We never feel the transmission. We feel the effect
      > of
      > the transmission. Because the transmission always
      > goes
      > into the heart, but the effect can be felt anywhere.
      > Like we eat here, but we feel the food in the
      > stomach,
      > and if people have acidity they feel the pain -
      > here.
      > So what happens is, that like electricity, if there
      > is
      > a bulb - you see a light; if there is a fan - you
      > see
      > it turning the air; if there is some motor - it is
      > turning. So we should not confuse the transmission
      > with its effect. The effect can be anywhere. It
      > should
      > change from point to point.
      >
      > Transmission comes only after cleaning.
      > Transmission
      > without cleaning can actually damage a person. So
      > transmission is always done only after sufficient
      > cleaning has been done. That is why we give these
      > introductory three sittings which are devoted solely
      > to cleaning. No transmission at all.
      >
      > All the lightness that you feel during a sitting is
      > not due to transmission at all, it is due to
      > cleaning.
      > Cleaning gives you lightness. Transmission, when you
      > are light, gives you the feeling of going deep into
      > the meditation. Transmission, when it is gross,
      > produces vibrations, all these funny things, you
      > see.
      > The subtler it is, the more you must feel that there
      > has been nothing happening in the meditation. But
      > after the sitting is over you feel the difference.
      >
      > Transmission cannot give stress. You see, when the
      > system is clean, you have a state of
      > thoughtlessness,
      > or of near thoughtlessness. Thoughtlessness is not a
      > spiritual condition, it is condition where your
      > inside
      > is evacuated of all grossness, almost all grossness,
      > so that there is no thought to come up from inside,
      > you see. Now you can receive thoughts from outside,
      > you are pure now. It can be divine thought, it can
      > be
      > Master's instructions. They come from outside. Now
      > they are no longer your thoughts. They cannot
      > disturb
      > you. In that condition, when you receive a
      > transmission, you are able to plunge - straight, you
      > see.
      >
      > Transmission is defined as 'pranasya prana' - Life
      > of
      > life. Now that which was a mere mechanical 'I'
      > before,
      > becomes a real living 'I'. I think that is one of
      > the
      > reasons why, sometimes in abhyasis, we find more
      > egoism after they have become abhyasis than they
      > were
      > before they started sadhana. When the sleeping 'I'
      > becomes the waking 'I', one would assume more
      > justifiably, that it is more aware of itself, and
      > that
      > is what egoism is - to be more aware of the self.
      > Therefore, the day we first receive our transmission
      > and Master makes us come alive to the real
      > existence,
      > in the life in life, that should also be the moment
      > when we should surrender that life to Him and the
      > new
      > life that has come to us doesn't belong to us
      > because
      > He has made it. He has given us life. So it is His.
      >
      > Our life began actually, effectively in a very true
      > sense, on the day we received our first transmission
      > at the hands of our Master. So it is in a sense our
      > birthday that we are celebrating. When we are here
      > on
      > the Master's birthday and we remember the Master in
      > a
      > special way on this day, it is our birthday we are
      > remembering, it is an offering of our gratitude, our
      > love - "Master, you made me alive on this day. I am
      > eternally grateful to you for putting me alive, when
      > I
      > was just an automaton which was running around on
      > wheels, run by an internal motor, which I called
      > foolishly 'my heart'. You made that heart come
      > alive,
      > by coming into the heart and becoming the heart of
      > my
      > heart. You made my life come alive, by becoming the
      > life of my life. You gave meaning to my existence,
      > by
      > giving me a purpose."
      >
      >
      > "A Master makes perfect,
      > that which Nature gave in raw material form."
      > ***
      > "Developing attachment for the Master is
      > the unfailing remedy to bring about worldly
      > detachment."
      > ***
      > "Every time we praise our Master,
      > we are really insulting Him,
      > because He is beyond praise and slander."
      > ***
      > "The Master may be surrounded by a thousand people.
      > We must be attached to Him and not to ourselves."
      > ***
      > "Master is one who brings out
      > the potentials in you and actualizes it."
      > ***
      > "We have to seek the services of the Guide.
      > And one who knows the road alone can guide us."
      > > Dear Subhash
      > > When my master's subtle self is in
      > front
      > > of me,can i see him with my open eyes?
      > > Thanks
      > > With Love
      > > Dr.Shakeel
      > > Murad
      > >
      > > --- subhash naik <sbhshnaik@...> wrote:
      > >
      > > >
      > > > The worthy trainer by the power of yogic
      > > > transmission weakens the lower
      > > > tendencies in the mind of trainee and sows the
      > > seed
      > > > of Divine Light in the
      > > > innermost core of his heart. In this process the
      > > > trainer uses his will-force which
      > > > has divine infinite at his back. The trainee may
      > > not
      > > > feel anything in the
      > > > beginning. The reason is that he is accustomed
      > to
      > > > feel only through the
      > > > senses. After sometime, however, he may feel the
      > > > results of such
      > > > transmission, which also are in the form of
      > subtle
      > > > changes of the working of
      > > > his vital parts and tendencies of his mind.
      > > >
      > > > If I may be permitted a short reference to the
      > > > Upanishads particularly the
      > > > Kena Upanishad, a student asks his teacher by
      > what
      > > > does the eye see? By
      > > > what does the nose smell? By what does the ear
      > > hear?
      > > > And so on, and the
      > > > teacher replies that it is not the eye that
      > sees,
      > > > but the eye of the eye. Similarly
      > > > what hears is the ear of the ear, and what
      > speaks
      > > is
      > > > not the mouth but
      > > > something behind the mouth, the real speaker.
      > The
      > > > Rishi goes on to add that
      > > > life itself lives only by the existence of the
      > > > higher life which it contains and this
      > > > is called the pranasya prana or the life of
      > life.
      > > My
      > > > Master has maintained that
      > > > while the body lives by the soul, the soul must
      > in
      > > > turn have that by which it
      > > > exists, and this is the ultimate life force or
      > > > pranasakthi.
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > We have this brilliant idea in Sahaj Marg that
      > the
      > > > body lives by the soul, and
      > > > the soul can go through time, as we understand
      > it,
      >
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