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  • jodyrrr
    There you go, ignorantly disparaging your hero. Tsk, tsk. --jody.
    Message 1 of 3 , Apr 11, 2005
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      There you go, ignorantly disparaging your hero.

      Tsk, tsk.

      --jody.

      --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, jasonjamesmorgan
      <no_reply@y...> wrote:
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      > Hello,
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      > Remembered this, when I read your question.
      > Namaste
      > Om Namah Shivaya
      > Jason James Morgan
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      > www.celibacy.info
      >
      > Freaked Out In San Francisco
      > By simply upholding the moral dharma the Dalai Lama manages to shock
      > California's "gay buddhists"
      >
      > Q
      > Your Holiness, what do you think of homosexuality?
      > Dalai Lama:
      > "It's part of what we Buddhists call 'bad sexual conduct.'
      > Sexual organs were created for reproduction between the male element and
      > the female element and everything that deviates from that is not
      > acceptable from a Buddhist point of view. Between a man and [another]
      > man,a woman and another woman, in the mouth, the anus,or even using a
      > hand." (the DL mimes masturbation)...
      > Q
      > So you share this view with Christianity?
      > Dalai Lama:
      > "We share much more than that: the same philosophy of love of one's
      > neighbor, the aspiration to elevate a human being above his/her vices,
      > compassion and forgiveness..."
      > June 1997, San Francisco
      >
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      > COMMENT: The Dalai Lama was meeting with an odd bunch, San
      > Francisco's "gay buddhists." A silly development of recent years is
      > that of social radicals adopting Buddhism as a pet religion. I imagine
      > it serves to mark their contempt for the religions of their forebears,
      > as well as offering trendy glamour. In California it is much more
      > important to appear to be something than to actually be anything. Maybe
      > for decided homosexuals Buddhism is a good luck charm to clutch on that
      > perilous flight from anscestral wisdom and natural order.
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      > Unfortunately for them, all strains of Buddhism -- and the eastern
      > religions in general -- are as morally rigorous as the Christianity
      > they flee. Even arguably more so. After the Dalai Lama briefed them on
      > the obvious, the "gay buddhists" expressed dismay. Formerly a darling
      > of the liberal "new age," suddenly the Dalai Lama was a backward old
      > monk needing an update; needing to get with the program.
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      > Californians, sad to say, are expert at dumbing down the dharma
      > (Buddhism), and mucking up the yoga (Hinduism). Tirelessly inventive as
      > gays are, the "gay buddhists" of Saint Francisco promptly announced the
      > need for a "new 21st century buddhism." I surmise they mean a "new"
      > Buddhism that better comports with, um, old-fashioned carnal desire. It
      > is a pity that before they got a fancy for this profound and venerable
      > religion they didn't note Buddha's pivotal teaching: the killing out of
      > lust and desire. Abundant verses in the literature go beyond hinting:
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      > "From lust comes grief, from lust comes fear; he who is free from lust
      > neither sorrows nor fears."
      > --The Dhammapada
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      > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "lovepeaceyes2000"
      > <lovepeaceyes2000@y...> wrote:
      > >
      > > Was asked of me and I wondered, so I pass it to you my brothers and
      > > sisters: Will Western Buddhism become its own form of Buddhism, like
      > > Zen or Tibetan Buddhism?
      > >
      > > How much of what has been brought to the West is Buddhist vs
      > > cultural?
      > >
      > > Will we see a time when dharma centers have chairs and no cushions?
      > > When everything is done exclusively in the vernacular (except the
      > > mantras)?
      > >
      > > Thoughts?
      > >
      > > Rama
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