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Re: [Meditation Society of America] Re: Non-dual Bhakti

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  • Bruce Morgen
    Translation: How dare you (let alone the dozens of credible people on record as agreeing with you) tamper with my personal harbored hagiographic image of the
    Message 1 of 12 , Apr 11, 2005
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      Translation: "How dare you
      (let alone the dozens of
      credible people on record
      as agreeing with you)
      tamper with my personal
      harbored hagiographic image
      of the Famous Dead Guy[tm]
      -- your purport is
      ridiculous and malevolent,
      therefore dismissable."


      jasonjamesmorgan wrote:

      >Hello,
      >
      >Now you compare him to Micheal Jackson.
      >
      >He also dressed like a women. A sadhana that is meant to equalize
      >the ego, and get rid of desire.
      >He also became devoted to hamuman, jumped around like a monkey, and
      >his tail bone extended.
      >He also practiced tantric disciplines, tasting human flesh, sex, wine
      >drinking from human skulls etc.
      >He practiced all sadhanas, mastered them, and saw the holy mother in
      >everyone. So that he could teach out of experience, and not books.
      >
      >He saw the holy mother in women and men. He was declared an avatar
      >by these learned religious polititions.
      >
      >And how do they research him and his sexuality a century later?
      >
      >I am quite aware of the critisisms of the Master.
      >
      >Your claims are rediculous. Please send me your source info. I
      >always go to the source. Ramana not Godman, Ramakrishna not hindu
      >councils. Jesus, not the church. etc.
      >These councils shall get our attention.
      >
      >I salute you for bringning this malevolence to my attention.
      >
      >Namaste
      >Om Namah Shivaya
      >Jason James Morgan
      >
      >
      >
      >--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jodyrrr"
      ><jodyrrr@y...> wrote:
      >
      >
      >>From the Kathamrita:
      >>
      >>The Master is talking to M about Purna—
      >>Sri Ramakrishna—"What I'm telling you—this is not for
      >>every soul to hear—I want to kiss and embrace man as
      >>woman."
      >>(KA 4.271)
      >>
      >>Another passage, Ramakrishna describes a vision:
      >>
      >>"Everywhere there was a fog of bliss!—From within it a
      >>boy of thirteen arose and showed his face! He had the
      >>form of Purna! We were both naked!—then the two of us
      >>ran around the field and played joyfully!"
      >>(KA 4.259)
      >>
      >>Yet another passage, Ramakrisha speaking:
      >>
      >>"In that state I couldn't help but worship the little
      >>penises of boys with sandalpaste and flowers."
      >>(KA 4.232)
      >>
      >>That's from M's Kathamrita, translated directly from
      >>the Bengali. It's not in Nikhilananda's English
      >>translation, "The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna."
      >>Nikhilananda left those parts out.
      >>
      >>Jason, the fact that you aren't even aware of the
      >>substantial research being done on Ramakrishna's
      >>sexuality by the religious studies community reveals
      >>how much you DON'T know about Ramakrishna.
      >>
      >>I have no doubt your mind will spin these passages
      >>to innocent play between a guru and his devotee.
      >>But doesn't Michael Jackson claim his "play" was
      >>innocent as well?
      >>
      >>--jody.
      >>
      >>--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, jasonjamesmorgan
      >><no_reply@y...> wrote:
      >>
      >>
      >>>Hello,
      >>>
      >>>Hmmm. Alright, let do this Jody. These dudes also thought his
      >>>bhavamukta was a nerological disorder. They had their position
      >>>brought apon them with politics and feigned authority. I would
      >>>
      >>>
      >die
      >
      >
      >>>for my master. To say he was attracted to men, is just as
      >>>
      >>>
      >rediculous
      >
      >
      >>>as to say he was attracted women.
      >>>
      >>>You have my attention Jody. jasonjamesmorgan@d... if you want
      >>>to do this privately.
      >>>
      >>>By the way, you did not prove it. Have you read "sri ramakrishna
      >>>
      >>>
      >and
      >
      >
      >>>his divine play".
      >>>
      >>>Sri Ramakrishna is Jasons life study, living scripture and
      >>>
      >>>
      >avatar.
      >
      >
      >>>Swami Vivikananda is my lion. We are lions among house cats.
      >>>
      >>>I thought you were just trying to erk me. If you are serious, we
      >>>will play.
      >>>
      >>>Om Mani Padme Hum
      >>>Om Tat Sat
      >>>Namaste
      >>>Om Namah Shivaya
      >>>Jason James Morgan
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jodyrrr"
      >>><jodyrrr@y...> wrote:
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>>--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >jasonjamesmorgan
      >
      >
      >>>><no_reply@y...> wrote:
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>>Hello,
      >>>>>
      >>>>>These are fighting words. LOL
      >>>>>
      >>>>>Prove it. Your words are so rediculious, I almost did not
      >>>>>
      >>>>>
      >>>reply.
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>>>Thanks for the laugh. Your ignorance of the master, is none
      >>>>>
      >>>>>
      >but
      >
      >
      >>>your
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>>>own fault. Appoligize to yourself.
      >>>>>
      >>>>>
      >>>>>Namaste
      >>>>>Om Namah Shivaya
      >>>>>Jason James Morgan
      >>>>>
      >>>>>
      >>>>Read the website bozo:
      >>>>
      >>>>http://www.ruf.rice.edu/~kalischi
      >>>>
      >>>>Practically the entirety of the American Academy of
      >>>>Religious Studies is behind this view of Ramakrishna,
      >>>>as are famous Bengali poet Sunil Gangopadhyay as well
      >>>>as the famous Bengali author Sudhir Kakar.
      >>>>
      >>>>You are one of the unfortunate many whose heads are
      >>>>so clogged up with hagiography that you'll probably
      >>>>never get a chance to see who you really are.
      >>>>
      >>>>Good luck with yourself. Your type needs it more
      >>>>than any other in the spiritual game.
      >>>>
      >>>>--jody.
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>>--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jodyrrr"
      >>>>><jodyrrr@y...> wrote:
      >>>>>
      >>>>>
      >>>>>>--- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
      >>>>>>
      >>>>>>
      >>>jasonjamesmorgan
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>>>><no_reply@y...> wrote:
      >>>>>>[snip]
      >>>>>>
      >>>>>>
      >>>>>>
      >>>>>>>Sri Ramakrishna was married for certain reasons. He
      >>>>>>>
      >>>>>>>
      >never
      >
      >
      >>>had
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>>>sex. He
      >>>>>
      >>>>>
      >>>>>>>demonstrated the true householder life by example. Have
      >>>>>>>
      >>>>>>>
      >>>kids,
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>>>not sex
      >>>>>
      >>>>>
      >>>>>>>type thing. How could he get it on with his mother?
      >>>>>>>
      >>>>>>>
      >>>>>>Ramakrishna never had sex with his wife because he was
      >>>>>>for the most part a homosexual.
      >>>>>>
      >>>>>>While he embraced Kali as Mother, he rejected Her as Lover.
      >>>>>>In fact, he abhorred Her as Lover, and all women who were
      >>>>>>sexually active and potential competition for the affections
      >>>>>>of his young boy disciples.
      >>>>>>
      >>>>>>http://www.ruf.rice.edu/~kalischi
      >>>>>>
      >>>>>>After he died, his wife took up residence with a lesbian.
      >>>>>>
      >>>>>>--jody.
      >>>>>>
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