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Re: A Meditation on God, The Father.

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  • devianandi
    ... i think its more correct to say that the seeker who is searching for the Self or God or enlightenment (at least the more advanced seeker) is actually
    Message 1 of 9 , Apr 9, 2005
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      --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Read"
      <mareadba@y...> wrote:
      >
      > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Belyea"
      > <jeff@m...> wrote:
      > >
      > > A Meditation on God,
      > > The Father.
      >
      > Sorry Jeffji, i gotta give this one a big fat zero.
      >
      > way too many concepts...
      >
      > it is typical of the "mind candy"
      > that poses as spirituality,
      > religion and enlightenment
      >
      > as Shri Bobji's Ramdas posts point out
      > the seeker is searching for self
      > but the seeker is already self
      >
      > be well,
      >
      > michael


      i think its more correct to say that the seeker who is searching for
      the Self or God or enlightenment (at least the more advanced seeker)
      is actually reaching for the experience of nirvikalpa samadi..

      some people have inklings of the Self as an unchanging background in
      its life compared to the every changing body/mind complex...actually
      i think most children have this inkling but some lose it and others
      take it further...

      then there are some people can who can feel the presence of the
      unchanging Self somethimes as something thats other then the
      body/mind complex, mystics call it the *presense of God*

      some people realize that there is a *witness* consciousness

      some people can actually see through the third eye to that Self.

      but to leave the body/mind complex, to go throught the third eye and
      leave creation behind into the void/ nirguna brahman, that is what
      the seeker is ultimatley going to arrive at and realize that thats
      always been the case...the Self has been is and always will be in
      nirvikalpa samadi and the whole bodys/mind complex now is awake to
      that.....
    • Jeff Belyea
      Thanks, Michael - Would the more authentic spirituality, in your opinion, be more like, eat your spinach ? The seeker is seeking happiness. Some us choose to
      Message 2 of 9 , Apr 14, 2005
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        Thanks, Michael -

        Would the more authentic
        spirituality, in your opinion,
        be more like, "eat your spinach"?

        The seeker is seeking happiness.
        Some us choose to speak of that
        path in sweet language - and we
        don't worry about getting
        chocolate in our beards or
        fear of a big, fat zero
        rating.

        The concepts are merely
        disposable containers
        for the convenience of
        communication. They are not
        expression of that ineffable
        experience of sudden and
        startling wisdom known by
        some as Awakening or
        Enlightenment.

        Ramakrishna (a hot topic
        here, recently) was, by some
        reports, a Christian, a Hindu
        and a Buddhist. He saw no
        differences - only parallels.

        And, if the seeker of self
        already knew that he or she
        was the self (Self)he wouldn't
        be seeking.

        But (before enlightenment)
        we think, therefore,
        we seek.

        A little vinegar with
        that spinach?

        Best, as always, Michael.

        Jeff


        > <jeff@m...> wrote:
        > >
        > > A Meditation on God,
        > > The Father.
        >
        > Sorry Jeffji, i gotta give this one a big fat zero.
        >
        > way too many concepts...
        >
        > it is typical of the "mind candy"
        > that poses as spirituality,
        > religion and enlightenment
        >
        > as Shri Bobji's Ramdas posts point out
        > the seeker is searching for self
        > but the seeker is already self
        >
        > be well,
        >
        > michael
      • Michael Read
        LOL! Yes indeed, eat the spinach! Vinegar is the irony that the spinach was there all the time... with love, michael
        Message 3 of 9 , Apr 15, 2005
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          LOL!

          Yes indeed, eat the spinach!

          Vinegar is the irony that the spinach was there all the time...

          with love,

          michael


          --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Belyea"
          <jeff@m...> wrote:
          >
          > Thanks, Michael -
          >
          > Would the more authentic
          > spirituality, in your opinion,
          > be more like, "eat your spinach"?
          >
          > The seeker is seeking happiness.
          > Some us choose to speak of that
          > path in sweet language - and we
          > don't worry about getting
          > chocolate in our beards or
          > fear of a big, fat zero
          > rating.
          >
          > The concepts are merely
          > disposable containers
          > for the convenience of
          > communication. They are not
          > expression of that ineffable
          > experience of sudden and
          > startling wisdom known by
          > some as Awakening or
          > Enlightenment.
          >
          > Ramakrishna (a hot topic
          > here, recently) was, by some
          > reports, a Christian, a Hindu
          > and a Buddhist. He saw no
          > differences - only parallels.
          >
          > And, if the seeker of self
          > already knew that he or she
          > was the self (Self)he wouldn't
          > be seeking.
          >
          > But (before enlightenment)
          > we think, therefore,
          > we seek.
          >
          > A little vinegar with
          > that spinach?
          >
          > Best, as always, Michael.
          >
          > Jeff
          >
          >
          > > <jeff@m...> wrote:
          > > >
          > > > A Meditation on God,
          > > > The Father.
          > >
          > > Sorry Jeffji, i gotta give this one a big fat zero.
          > >
          > > way too many concepts...
          > >
          > > it is typical of the "mind candy"
          > > that poses as spirituality,
          > > religion and enlightenment
          > >
          > > as Shri Bobji's Ramdas posts point out
          > > the seeker is searching for self
          > > but the seeker is already self
          > >
          > > be well,
          > >
          > > michael
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