Re: [Meditation Society of America] Re: The Comfort of Silence/ and a group i...
- Are you saying that you experience this, effortlessly and continuously?
Are you really saying, claiming that?
If so, bless you.
I rather thought that, if this were so, there would be no assertion involved? Or am I wrong?
I'm not being intentionally abrasive here--just skeptically curious.
- On the commonly considered
conscious level, effort is
required. Logic and ration
are used as considerations
for action; such as, how a
conscious act might be out
of kindness and compassion.
On another level, there is
no conscious consideration
or intented action, but an
automatic autonomic system
at work. Breathing is such.
Enlightened awareness, too.
One who speaks (writes) of
the taproot of meditation,
a place of perfect harmony
in which the meditator may
consciously enjoy an inner
view of an effortless way,
will not be mugged in such
a grossly transparent way.
Sorry, Sheila. This one is
not a newcomer to the mean
streets of the skeptically
curious. Not to dodge your
pure inquiry, here are the
answers to the 4 questions:
No, that is new pablum zen.
You assumed the assertion,
and then held a gun to the
head of the one you mugged.
The gun is only a metaphor.
--- In email@example.com,
> Are you saying that you experience this, effortlessly andcontinuously?
> Are you really saying, claiming that?involved?
> If so, bless you.
> I rather thought that, if this were so, there would be no assertion
> Or am I wrong?
> I'm not being intentionally abrasive here--just skeptically curious.
- --- In firstname.lastname@example.org,
I understand that kind of silent and deep communication--it is truly
divine. But what I was pointing to is that, as of yet, most of us
have not evolved to that level, on a full time basis. So we do still
talk. Given that, it becomes how can/do we do so in the kindest, most
-In that case, then I think we need to talk about how we DO get to
that silent, telepathic communion on a full-time basis. I don't think
without that there will be any genuine communication on the talking
level. There needs to be that dimension that connects us not just to
the energies of the universe but to the energies of each other so
that we truly feel our communion when we interact with each other.
Meditative awareness isn't a 'thing' to talk about
-no, but there are actions we can take to cultivate it. Such as
practicing meditation and how we do that. Or how do we meditate in
other venues such as typing a message to someone on an internet yahoo
/point to--it is a beingness, essence, experiential reality that we
carry with us, throughout all the interactions we have in this life,
whatever this life, this world, may be.
Not easy to talk about. Not easy to maintain. I'm trying.
-and you will suceed, it certainly sounds like it.