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  • Jeff Belyea
    Noticing the breath, focusing our awareness on the gentle and silent inhale and exhale, is at the core of almost all techniques or combination of techniques
    Message 1 of 19 , Oct 2, 2004
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      Noticing the breath, focusing
      our awareness on the gentle
      and silent inhale and exhale,
      is at the core of almost all
      techniques or combination
      of techniques taught as
      "meditation".

      As this relaxation technique
      quiets the mind, we may
      eventually come to an inner
      silence, where even noticing
      the breath fades away.

      This inner silence is true
      meditation, and over time
      the meditator will come to
      maintain this inner silence
      as an undercurrent of life,
      while being actively engaged
      the daily activities.

      At this point (and this ability
      to be able to maintain the
      inner silence while even
      active can takes years for
      some to achieve) meditation
      becomes our natural state,
      and with that comes a
      peace of mind and freedom
      from stress - or at least
      an effective way to manage
      stress –

      and with it may come a
      natural enlightenment, a
      realization, an awakening,
      an understanding, a sudden and
      startling wisdom, a sense of
      a "new" reality - that was there
      all the time just waiting for us
      to re-discover it and shake off
      the learned way of thinking
      that had us formerly identifying
      ourselves with our thinking,
      our senses, and our intellect.

      Visualization is not meditation
      in the classic sense, but is
      a way to quiet negative self-talk
      and may be a "cousin" to
      meditation, but it is not
      meditation.

      Visualization is a wonderful
      creative strategy for goal
      achievement: imagining
      that we are at an ideal weight,
      motivating us toward success
      in our careers, sports performance,
      or breaking a habit like quitting
      smoking...or jumping over
      a big puddle.

      Visualization is an active
      use of our imagination and
      while a positive and valuable
      tools as mentioned above,
      it engages the thinking process
      and inner "noise", which is
      not the same as the inner
      silence that meditation
      can bring us to experience -
      and the mystical door that
      it can open.

      -- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
      medit8ionsociety <no_reply@y...> wrote:
      > When you meditate should you concentrate on your breathing
      or should
      > you do visulization? What is the difference?
      > L and J
    • roya kanani
      medit8ionsociety wrote:When you meditate should you concentrate on your breathing or should you do visulization? What is the
      Message 2 of 19 , Oct 4, 2004
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        medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
        When you meditate should you concentrate on your breathing or should
        you do visulization?  What is the difference?
        L and J

        I think when we concentrate in breathing, after short time appeared some image in our mind.


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      • ganeshbabu vempati
        Observing the process of natural breathing will lead us to enter into a thoughtless state or alfa state during which we feel a state of trance. In this
        Message 3 of 19 , Oct 8, 2004
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          Observing the process of natural breathing will lead us to enter into a thoughtless state or alfa state during which we feel a state of trance. In this condition the flow of cosmic energy increases at an increased rate. In this condition we get visualization of many things. At initial stages we can not remember all the visions. But soon we learn to recollect every thing. Hence observing the breath isw only to enter ourselves into the next stage where the breathing becomes narrow. Suppose if one gets thoughts again after some time, then one has to observe the breath to enter into the alfa stage.
          Thanks.
          Ganesh Babu.

          medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
          When you meditate should you concentrate on your breathing or should
          you do visulization?  What is the difference?
          L and J



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        • ganeshbabu vempati
          Reply, when you do meditation, get asort of tranquility during that time we get visualization. Actually speaking observing the breath is a process to enter
          Message 4 of 19 , Feb 14, 2005
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            Reply, when you do meditation, get asort of tranquility during that time we get visualization. Actually speaking observing the breath is a process to enter into alfa state. As once we are in that state one will be not observing  the breath as it becomes very short and some times even no breathing state which occur without our conscious.Thanks, Ganesh


            ganeshbabu vempati <vempatig2003@...> wrote:
            Observing the process of natural breathing will lead us to enter into a thoughtless state or alfa state during which we feel a state of trance. In this condition the flow of cosmic energy increases at an increased rate. In this condition we get visualization of many things. At initial stages we can not remember all the visions. But soon we learn to recollect every thing. Hence observing the breath isw only to enter ourselves into the next stage where the breathing becomes narrow. Suppose if one gets thoughts again after some time, then one has to observe the breath to enter into the alfa stage.
            Thanks.
            Ganesh Babu.

            medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
            When you meditate should you concentrate on your breathing or should
            you do visulization?  What is the difference?
            L and J



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          • ganeshbabu vempati
            I for got to give u the difference between observing the breath and concentrating the breath??? Just observe the natural, soft soothing breathing process
            Message 5 of 19 , Feb 14, 2005
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              I for got to give u the difference between observing the breath and concentrating the breath???
              Just observe the natural, soft soothing breathing process without changing the natural process. Observe it at the feet of your nose i.e in and out process only . If u concentrate the breathing process, your mind is still working and ur not in nomind state and it will continue and u can feel the flow of cosmic energy at slow rate . when un start observing the breathing , after some time u get some sort of tranquility and u willbe progressing in ur process


              ganeshbabu vempati <vempatig2003@...> wrote:
              Reply, when you do meditation, get asort of tranquility during that time we get visualization. Actually speaking observing the breath is a process to enter into alfa state. As once we are in that state one will be not observing  the breath as it becomes very short and some times even no breathing state which occur without our conscious.Thanks, Ganesh


              ganeshbabu vempati <vempatig2003@...> wrote:
              Observing the process of natural breathing will lead us to enter into a thoughtless state or alfa state during which we feel a state of trance. In this condition the flow of cosmic energy increases at an increased rate. In this condition we get visualization of many things. At initial stages we can not remember all the visions. But soon we learn to recollect every thing. Hence observing the breath isw only to enter ourselves into the next stage where the breathing becomes narrow. Suppose if one gets thoughts again after some time, then one has to observe the breath to enter into the alfa stage.
              Thanks.
              Ganesh Babu.

              medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
              When you meditate should you concentrate on your breathing or should
              you do visulization?  What is the difference?
              L and J



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            • ganeshbabu vempati
              When you meditate just visulize the natural , soft , soothing breathing process at the base of the nose. If we start concentrating the breath, it will create
              Message 6 of 19 , Feb 20, 2005
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                When you meditate just visulize the natural , soft , soothing  breathing process at the base of the nose. If we start concentrating the breath, it will create a stat in which continuously we keep our thought to maintain that state of concentrating which cannot create thoughtless state. Meditation is done mainly to attain a thoughtless state during which we start moving into our inner profiles which is also called inner vision or ANTARMUKH in sanskrit. Than Q Ganesh.
                Sorry for the delay.


                medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
                When you meditate should you concentrate on your breathing or should
                you do visulization?  What is the difference?
                L and J



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