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Re: [Meditation Society of America] Meditation is calming

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  • Jeff Belyea
    In the dewing. (ü) ... Belyea ... can
    Message 1 of 6 , Sep 28, 2004
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      --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Nina"
      <murrkis@y...> wrote:
      > Hehe, I got plenty of love,
      > right here in my luteinizing
      > hormones. Surge, baby, surge!
      >
      > If you can't see the love
      > in the 'how', then I might ask
      > you the similar:
      >
      > "Where's the love, man?"
      >
      > ;) Nina
      >
      > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff
      Belyea"
      > <jeff@m...> wrote:
      > > Meat that thinks
      > > and meat that
      > > has a spritual
      > > experience?
      > >
      > > Where's the love,
      > > women?
      > >
      > > (ü)
      > >
      > >
      > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Nina"
      > > <murrkis@y...> wrote:
      > > > :) Maybe the 'how' IS the 'why'.
      > > >
      > > > not even two cents,
      > > > Nina
      > > >
      > > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
      > > Santino_50
      > > > <santino_50@y...> wrote:
      > > > > Hello Group,
      > > > >
      > > > > My view is that science can tell us the HOW of many
      > > > > processes -- the step-by-step interactions that got us
      > > > > from crawling creatures to human beings. But the
      > > > > questions of WHY are beyond its scope. Because we
      can
      > > > > explain a process does not mean that we understand its
      > > > > essential substance. That's the area of religion and
      > > > > spirituality. I don't see a conflict. I wouldn't go
      > > > > to a scientist for a philosophical or spiritual
      > > > > assessment anymore than I would go to a spiritual
      > > > > guide for a scientific one.
      > > > >
      > > > > Just my $0.02
      > > > >
      > > > > thanks,
      > > > >
      > > > > Patrick
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > --- Era <mi_nok@y...> wrote:
      > > > >
      > > > > > New Delhi: Modern science tells us that love is
      > > > > > essentially a chemical phenomenon. All the things
      > > > > > you
      > > > > > feel when you're in love can be explained by the
      > > > > > presence of certain chemicals—-say, phenyl
      > > > > > ethylamine
      > > > > > which is associated with a feeling of bliss or
      > > > > > oxytocin that's found to be high in breast-feeding
      > > > > > mothers.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > While research on the subject is still not
      > > > > > conclusive, there are suggestions that religious and
      > > > > > spiritual experiences, too, might be built into the
      > > > > > complex circuitry of our brains. At least that's
      > > > > > what
      > > > > > research in two American universities appear to
      > > > > > indicate.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Research at the University of Wisconsin at Madison
      > > > > > and the University of California, San Francisco, on
      > > > > > Buddhist monks showed that parts of the brain
      > > > > > dealing
      > > > > > with positive emotions and self-control were more
      > > > > > active, while those associated with memory of fear
      > > > > > were relatively calmer, leading researchers to
      > > > > > believe
      > > > > > that Buddhist monks who appear happy and calm were
      > > > > > are
      > > > > > genuinely so.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > To take the research on spiritual experience
      > > > > > further, Andrew Newburg, a radiologist at the
      > > > > > University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia, scanned
      > > > > > the brains of Buddhist monks and Franciscan nuns in
      > > > > > meditation or prayer and the results were
      > > > > > fascinating.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > First, the prefrontal cortex -or the part of the
      > > > > > brain dealing with positive emotions -was seething
      > > > > > with activity. More interestingly, the parietal
      > > > > > lobes
      > > > > > showed very little activity. What are parietal
      > > > > > lobes?
      > > > > > These lobes are part of the cerebrum and are
      > > > > > associated with two functions, the orientation of
      > > > > > the
      > > > > > body in space and the perception of space and time.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > To be more precise, the left superior parietal lobe
      > > > > > creates the perception of the body's physical
      > > > > > boundaries and the right superior parietal lobe
      > > > > > creates the perception of physical space outside of
      > > > > > the body. Since, during meditation, the parietal
      > > > > > lobes
      > > > > > are unable to create the perception of space and
      > > > > > linear time that are an essential part of our
      > > > > > consciousness, it gives rise to a sensation of
      > > > > > infinity and timelessness.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > That's one take. Here's another. Dr Michael
      > > > > > Persinger at Laurentian University studied the brain
      > > > > > scans of temporal lobe of epileptic patients who
      > > > > > reported having mystical experiences. He then
      > > > > > artificially induced temporal lobe seizures on
      > > > > > volunteers and their reactions were the same as the
      > > > > > epileptics —-religious dream-like hallucinations and
      > > > > > the volunteers sensing `spectral presence´ in the
      > > > > > room
      > > > > > with them.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Dr Persinger suggests this could be because of the
      > > > > > presence of the temporal cortex inside the temporal
      > > > > > lobes. The left hemisphere of the temporal cortex is
      > > > > > responsible for one's awareness of self. When the
      > > > > > activity in this cortex gets out of sync, as happens
      > > > > > in a seizure, the left hemisphere perceives the
      > > > > > right
      > > > > > hemisphere as a `sensed presence´ separate from
      > > > > > itself, which could be interpreted as God.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Another part of the brain that could be playing a
      > > > > > role in religious experiences is the limbic system.
      > > > > > Limbic stimulation is known to bring richness to
      > > > > > experience. Jeffery Saver, a researcher at UCLA,
      > > > > > says
      > > > > > that during a religious experience the limbic system
      > > > > > becomes unusually active, which makes everything
      > > > > > that
      > > > > > happens during an experience especially significant.
      > > > > > In fact, even elaborate religious ceremonies,
      > > > > > involving things like chanting and rituals, make the
      > > > > > brain tag the rituals as different from everyday
      > > > > > activities. This, in turn, triggers activity in the
      > > > > > limbic system leading to a feeling of bliss.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Skeptics will interpret the scientific findings as
      > > > > > proof that God does not exist, because we can
      > > > > > scientifically replicate mystical religious
      > > > > > experiences. However, Newberg himself says that
      > > > > > while
      > > > > > he has a sense of his own spirituality, his agenda
      > > > > > for
      > > > > > research doesn't include determining whether god
      > > > > > exists or not. That, according to him, is a
      > > > > > different
      > > > > > question from trying to determine the neurology of
      > > > > > spiritual and religious experiences.
      > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > > > metta, Era
      > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
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