Re: Meditation and Diet/Food fight
- Thanks, Nina. I can always
count on you to counterpoint.
No doubt you are a crackerjack
architect (and that's not meant
in any denigrating way), but I
would bet you dollars to donuts...
make that, cash to carrot sticks...
that when it came to your
professional training of choice,
you were torn between law
and architecture. Right?
Now, not wanting to precipitate
a food fight, I will simply reply
that I was reporting my personal
experience for those with whom
it would resonate. If a T-Bone
before you tuck in makes you
sleep like a log, good for you.
Atkins smiles from the heavenlies.
As for me, I am mostly a
wife-encouraged raw foodist,
pretty much a vegartarian,
but at core, and as long as
MacDonalds keeps their
double cheeseburger on
the dollar menu, at risk
of backsliding. That would
make me a flexitarian, I guess.
I'll eat what's available, or
whatever finds its way to
my plate. I've just noticed,
as you mentioned that you
have, that eating light seems
to quiet the inner noise
and, especially at waking,
a very peaceful and content
feeling is noticed.
Always enjoy your poignant
points of view.
> "Nina" <murrkis@y...> wrote:Points well and truly made, Nina.
> > "Jeff Belyea" <jeff@m...> wrote:
> > But overcooked and dense food
> > not only has questionable nutritive
> > value, it makes the digestive
> > system work harder and longer...
> > and this amounts to "noise"
> > in the body. A veggie and/or
> > raw food diet will quiet the
> > body in only a few days.
> > Most noticeable will be the
> > peaceful feeling upon waking.
> > When the body is not asked
> > to digest heavy meals, sleep
> > is more restful and peaceful.
> > Quieting the mind to the
> > point of allowing for the
> > meditative effect of relaxation
> > will only take the meditator
> > so far if they ignore the
> > need to quiet the body noise.
> > Food for thought.
> Maybe before breakfast is the wrong
> time to write this post. :) Nonetheless...
> I see what you are saying, and have
> experienced that sort of 'quieting'
> of the body when eating easily
> digested food. However, for people
> who do not have enduring digestive
> fire, raw food can actually be very
> difficult to digest.
> Also, as a person who is prone to
> 'airy' mentation and physicality,
> a 'vata' by Ayurvedic language,
> I have found that eating too much
> raw food can exacerbate my tendency
> to be groundless. Too much air.
> Sure, eating root vegetables is
> different than eating celery,
> and should be grounding, but I've
> noticed that any grounding effect
> is hard to feel because of the
> challenge to digestion posed by
> those tough roots.
> Oddly enough, one method I use to
> get a really deep night's sleep
> is to eat a big meal (including meat)
> right before going to sleep. I know this
> is counter to most every recommendation
> to insomniacs, but it works for me
> as a 'reset'... I certainly wouldn't
> do it every night. It works when I'm
> overtired, when I suspect I won't
> be able to go to sleep or stay asleep.
> Well, Jeff, I couldn't help but point
> out a few counters to your diet
> proposal. I'm sure that what you've
> written works for many people...
> certainly it is what is supported by
> so many 'spiritual people' (and I
> don't mean that in any denigratory
> have a good day,
> and enjoy what you eat..
Anyone desiring to understand the true
interactions of foods with the body, is
well-put to study Ayurveda.
A system of metaphors from TCM
(traditional Chinese medicine) which
overlaps with the concepts of Ayurveda:
Fire 'disturbs' air
and makes smoke
which becomes 'Earth' (dirt)
Air is consciousness
Fire is movement
Smoke is the byproduct of combustion
and comprises the body (flesh and bone)
Food grows in dirt
Digestion (fire) burns food
which becomes the body
This cycle is immutable, but
can be perverted:
To eat 'fireproof' food
Thus the body shrinks:
To eat food which itself is fire...
Makes consciousness into a hurricane
'Sattva' (perfect dynamic balance) results from
each element perfectly serving the others.
'You are what you eat' says:
Imbalance eats imbalance.
Balance eats balance.
If this is not perfectly clear, study
of Ayurveda will bring it to you.
- --- In email@example.com, "Jeff Belyea"
> Thanks, Nina. I can alwaysYea, ain't that the truth!
> count on you to counterpoint.
> No doubt you are a crackerjackLOL. You know, you aren't the first
> architect (and that's not meant
> in any denigrating way), but I
> would bet you dollars to donuts...
> make that, cash to carrot sticks...
> that when it came to your
> professional training of choice,
> you were torn between law
> and architecture. Right?
to ask me that about law. I've been
told that I'd make a good lawyer.
I can't imagine why. Must be one of
grammars Gene wrote of on Nondual
> Now, not wanting to precipitate:) Hey, eat what makes you happy,
> a food fight, I will simply reply
> that I was reporting my personal
> experience for those with whom
> it would resonate. If a T-Bone
> before you tuck in makes you
> sleep like a log, good for you.
> Atkins smiles from the heavenlies.
> As for me, I am mostly a
> wife-encouraged raw foodist,
> pretty much a vegartarian,
> but at core, and as long as
> MacDonalds keeps their
> double cheeseburger on
> the dollar menu, at risk
> of backsliding. That would
> make me a flexitarian, I guess.
> I'll eat what's available, or
> whatever finds its way to
> my plate. I've just noticed,
> as you mentioned that you
> have, that eating light seems
> to quiet the inner noise
> and, especially at waking,
> a very peaceful and content
> feeling is noticed.
or at least not hungry.
> Always enjoy your poignantI bet you'd enjoy them more if I'd
> points of view.
only agree with you. /grin/
May your food agree with you more
than I do. Hehe..