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> > > to 'kill' I meant symbolicallyvery
> > >
> > > it means to cut of swiftly others
> > > ill charged shakti reaching toward
> > > you [to kill it]
> > >
> > > or like in Thai Chi take the attackers
> > > energy and turn it; mirror that back
> > > to them and let them claps under their
> > > own force and you stay standing
> > >
> > > this way the force is works on its own
> > >
> > > please by all means do not kill
> > > <grin>
> > >
> > > I am misunderstood so many times I
> > > thought to mention this
> > >
> > > Karta
> > >
> > > ps: of course the story is not the
> > > same with me when I explode...
> > > gotta work on that big time
> > SG: what force does energy have against space ?
> if you mean the void the emptiness,
> that is the birth of Brahman
> the sacred union of creating the force
> Consciousness with fertility
> from Ken Wilber One Taste:
> "Shakti, the energy of the Goddess,
> in an eternal embrace with Shiva, the
> pure formless Witness. All Forms are
> one with Emptiness: Shakti and Shiva
> are eternally making love, bound to
> each other with a fierce devotion
> that time, turmoil, death and destiny
> cannot even begin to touch.
> In Dzogchen Buddhism, the same idea
> is expressed in the thangka of the Adi-Buddha Samantabhadra (the
> highest Buddha) and his consort, Samantabhadri. Samantabhadra isdharmakaya
> depicted as a deep blue/black figure,
> naked, seated in the lotus posture.
> On his lap, facing him in sexual
> congress, is Samantabhadri, also
> naked, but a luminous bright white. Samantabhadra represents the
> or radical Emptiness, which isrupakaya,
> completely formless and therefore
> "black" (as in deep dreamless sleep). Samantabhadri represents the
> the entire world of Form, which isthat is invincible. They are, to each other,
> a brilliant white luminous display.
> Emptiness and form,
> consciousness and matter,
> spirit and the world.
> But the point is, they are making
> love; they are one in the ecstatic
> embrace of each other; they are
> united through all eternity by the unbreakable bond of a Love
> One Taste.
> This depiction of
> Samantabhadra and Samantabhadri
> Purusha and Prakriti,
> Shiva and Shakti,
> emptiness and form,
> wisdom and compassion,
> Eros and Agape,
> ascending and descending
> is not merely a symbol. It is a
> depiction of a direct realization.
> When you settle back as I-I, and rest
> as the formless Witness, you literally
> are Samantabhadra; you are the great
> Unborn, the radically unqualifiable
> Godhead. You are a great black
> Emptiness of infinite release. And yet,
> in the space of that Emptiness that
> you are, the entire universe is
> arising moment to moment: the clouds
> are floating through your awareness,
> those trees are arising in your
> awareness, those singing birds are
> one with you"
> > you are relating point against point ...... object
> > form struggling with object and form .........be
> > against space there is no struggle ..... nor can it
> > overcome ------ nor moved ........ it simplyIS.......
>And, thank you, Karta, that was a really nice post. I enjoyed it.
> thank you SG for your insight I see you
> mean if there is othing to bather
> you out there than there is peace
> thaks again, Karta