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Re: Ego and Guru/ML

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  • mlcanow
    ... Not all in ... not ... seen . ... it to ... be ... Well, pondering all these words, they seem to be just very correct and truthful. ml (familiar words)
    Message 1 of 6 , Aug 29, 2003
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      --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "manjusrilotus"
      <manjusrilotus@y...> wrote:
      >
      > > > > > On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 05:03:44 -0000 "mlcanow"
      > <mlcanow@y...>
      > > > writes:
      >
      > > "For the truthful one, ego dies in virtually
      > > > > > > every moment, thus making perceptual "room" for the
      > truly
      > > > sacred."
      > > > > > > (Bruce Morgen)
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > What a beauty!!!
      > > > > > > ml
      > > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > yes it is great and from a much better
      > > > > angle, than from the self-conscious:
      > > > > "I have no ego because I am an
      > > > > enlightened guru"
      > > > >
      > > > > LOL
      > > > >
      > > > > oh!
      > > >
      > > > Yes, 'I' is the first arising of ego.
      > > > And, by the way, what's the problem with ego?
      > > > To see ego as what it is
      > > > dissolves all 'problems' and conflicts.
      > > > Let's identify the mascarade.
      > > >
      > > > ml
      > >
      > > yes, exactly dear Maria Luisa
      > >
      > > all of my teachers have very different
      > > personalties; one is like a Taurus:
      > > head strong <grin> I think, that the ego
      > > should be yoked, used for the uniqueness
      > > they offer
      > >
      > > Karta
      >
      >
      > Is fiery nature ego ? Or can it be that it is just nature ?
      Not all in
      > nature is sweetness and still yet it is all needed in the grand
      > scheme of things and is simply an outflow of the guna's in
      > motion.
      >
      > Is not ego an attachment to mind - body - form identity ? It is
      not
      > that someone whom is speaking in quiet measure or with
      > pleasant strokes is necessarily beyond ego versus one that
      > speaks with words that stops one dead in their tracts and
      > causes a reaction . Neither does it mean that one whom is fiery
      > is within ego .......
      >
      > Looking at the various form of God's aspects - There is Krishna
      > that is light and airy and then Kali that is fiery and pulls away
      > illusion .
      >
      > Is one more ego bound than another ? Or are they in fact
      > simply movements of energy being directed towards the
      > unfolding of humanity ? How can these external movements be
      > judged as ego or not ? The only way to Know it is ego is to be
      > within it's consciousness to see if there is attachment or not .
      > Without attachment it might simply be a spontaneous movement
      > of Nature towards the most Satvik action in the moment .
      >
      > Just because a Guru's words may seem harsh do not judge it
      > as coming from *ego* as the guna's are 3 and have nothing to
      > do with ego . Each guna carries within it the seeds of either
      > Higher Satvik motion which is to take others beyond illusion or
      > the lower manifestation of ego which creates islands of intent .
      > While externally what is not pleasent others may judge as
      > coming from ego but in reality a Fire is simply a fire. A tearing
      > away is simply making room for further growth and not as a
      > means to put down or prove superiority (unless it is ego
      > generated) .
      > Nature is simply nature - the greatest tragedy can be the
      > greatest door to liberation . It is all in how the situation is
      seen .
      >
      > If your intent is to find ego indeed that is what you will judge
      it to
      > be . If your surrender is to the Divine within All then it will
      be
      > simply another movement to take you beyond the identifications
      > of either or .........
      >
      > just something to ponder.......


      Well, pondering all these words, they seem to be just very correct
      and truthful.

      ml

      (familiar words)
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