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9855Re: [Meditation Society of America] Re: Self-Improvement & Physical Practices

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  • Jason Fishman
    Jul 3, 2003
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      hehe, nice.

      Peace and Love

      --- freyjartist <freyjartist@...> wrote:
      > Hi Tony,
      >
      >
      > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
      > asimpjoy
      > <no_reply@y...> wrote:
      > >
      > > To the very ear of your ear,
      > > ... And to the Silence and
      > > Openness of the "Heart":
      > >
      > >
      > > ************************
      > >
      > > Physical practices have
      > > a limit, as do all self-
      > > improvement programs.
      > >
      >
      > Oh, really?
      >
      >
      > > Controlling action with an
      > > agenda keeps one confined to
      > > a pattern, and caught in the
      > > conflict of overcoming.
      > >
      >
      > So you're saying that all physical
      > practices and self-improvement
      > programs are necessarily motivated
      > by an agenda?
      >
      >
      > > There is the pleasure of achievement,
      > > and the pain of failure, both which
      > > results in a preoccupation with the "I",
      > > the "self" - the "me" and the "mine".
      > >
      >
      >
      > There is also the condition where
      > there is not difference between
      > "achieving" and "failing".
      > There is just the participating.
      > And all of it is seen in the same
      > light.
      >
      >
      > > In this way I am all the time
      > > self-consciously "becoming more
      > > or becoming less", as I measure,
      > > and try to control "my progress".
      > >
      >
      > This is not a "given" when it comes
      > to physical pursuits, as you are
      > seem to imply.
      >
      >
      > > So the sense of an egotistical
      > > self can become more solidified
      > > each time I try to improve myself
      > > with some daily agenda, and the
      > > more I enforce it, the more I loose
      > > the freedom of spontaneity.
      > >
      > > The mind does not know the way
      > > to the "Unknown", and that is
      > > why it is so essential to FEEL
      > > the spontaneity of the "Heart",
      > > and to let it dominate - to let
      > > it have duration, so that it can
      > > overcome all the ignorance and
      > > pettiness of the mind.
      > > ... Only then can there be "Freedom".
      > >
      > > Then Heart knows "The Way", but the
      > > mind does not. The mind can only
      > > accumulate negative or positive
      > > vanity - in its sense of achievement
      > > or failure, and in the sense of an
      > > entity becoming more or less,
      > > ... Because the mind does not have
      > > the power of "Being".
      > >
      > > Love,
      > > Tony
      >
      >
      >
      > There is no difference between
      > heart and mind when they are
      > fused together into one Will.
      > And *you* have nothing to do
      > with that happening or not happening.
      > Either you think someone separate (you)
      > is calling the shots, or not.
      >
      > When all activities are done
      > for completion only,
      > just because...
      >
      > they are undertaken, just because the desire is
      > there,
      > and for no other reason....
      >
      > they transpire only because the desire exists
      > and that is all...
      >
      > not to "get something" or "to self-improve"
      > but because if i am moved to do something,
      > there is no reason for the fulfillment of it to be
      > justified,
      > rationalized, explained or fit into some idea
      > of What is supposed to happen from this?
      >
      > Of course there may be side effects,
      > and those are meant to happen
      > exactly as they do, and one may notice
      > and observe them. And certainly
      > some 'conditions' are more desirable
      > than others. But that is part of
      > all that is happening, as well.
      >
      > An impulse may arise to do something....
      > and then in the next instant another impulse
      > may arise not to do that thing...so you
      > may not do it, but then again, you might,
      > if another impulse comes up to do that thing...
      >
      > and it's all.... just..... happening.
      >
      > The unification of mind and heart into
      > One Will is not of your doing either.
      >
      > Freyja
      >
      >


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