- Jun 3, 2003
> Thanks, cj.I wondered about this Jeff, I don't
> Sarlo asked for the rating
> from member of his group -
> after a year of dealing with
> my sometimes good-natured
> and sometimes not so
> good-natured antagonism.
> I have challenged the concept
> and been a major provocateur of
> the GR site membership since I
> first visited the group about a
> year ago. That rate and I say
> rating is bogus (to use a favorite
> Sarlo term) at best. I've about
> played my hand out there.
> I never used the term Guru,
> before coming upon Sarlo's
think, that your daily activities
and the succsess of your seminars
will be effected one way or an other
Your offering is honest and great
> and while I have been
> incredibly blessed and graced
> with a powerful transformation
> that saved by life, and began
> speaking and "teaching" about
> it almost immediately, the guru
> persona is relatively new.
> The tie to meditation is that
> this happened while meditating.
> What happened to me in the
> midst of meditation and the
> reports from Near-Death
> Experiencers are startlingly
> I wondered about this for
> years, before coming a report
> of yogis who went into deep
> meditation and all but suspended
> breathing, which decreases the
> brain activity and its demand
> for "energy" or "sugar" so much
> that is one of the methods used
> that is frequently precedent to
> bringing on a nirvikalpa samadhi.
> I went on to study meditation,
> hypnosis, relaxation techniques,
> raja yoga, and marketing communications
> looking for ways to share this most
> incredible experience. I'll
> stop here.
> Thanks for generous review.
> > > Well, this once humble
> > > and retiring meditation
> > > teacher, tucked quietly
> > > in the northeast corner
> > > of the US, has gone and
> > > done it.
> > >
> > > Those of you who have
> > > dual citizenship with
> > > this group and other groups
> > > on the Yahoo! circuit may
> > > know this, already.
> > >
> > > On the Yahoo! Group called
> > > Guru Ratings, moderated
> > > by "Sarlo", I have snarled
> > > and growled at the very
> > > premise for about a year.
> > >
> > > Finally, Sarlo himself
> > > has gone into a snarl,
> > > and posted a poll to "rate"
> > > the irascible persona that
> > > I bring into their midst.
> > > (If you were here in the
> > > days of the Jeff and Judi
> > > show, you've seen pretty
> > > much the full monty).
> > >
> > > What has this to do with
> > > meditation? I'm a long-term
> > > meditator (27 years and
> > > counting - I'm ready to
> > > stop counting) and it will
> > > be interesting to see how
> > > many rate according to
> > > what they have seen of me
> > > at that site, and how many
> > > actually look behind the
> > > mask (persona) to read
> > > information on my website
> > > and the files I have posted
> > > here and there about my
> > > lineage (as a guru) and
> > > my method (as a meditation
> > > teacher and motivational
> > > coach) and my enlightenment
> > > journey.
> > >
> > > Meditation may not do much
> > > to change the outward look
> > > and personality, but it does,
> > > in the world according to me,
> > > brings about dramatic emotional,
> > > psychological, and even possibly
> > > cellular-level changes.
> > > I am also convinced that it
> > > improves coordination and
> > > physical grace, that it
> > > not only relieve stress, but
> > > allow the meditator to take
> > > life's bump and grinds in
> > > stride and with equanimity
> > > in great part.
> > >
> > > Does bias effect fair judgment
> > > and intellect? Is it just
> > > an ego battle? Will this
> > > poll really answer any of
> > > that?
> > >
> > > I'll be back with results
> > > when they are published.
> > > Just thought this might be
> > > of interest to meditators
> > > and spiritual seekers.
> > >
> > > Meanwhile....
> > >
> > > OM
> > Hi Jeff,
> > I don't know what to make of Sarlo's rating system. At first I
> > thought that the site was meant only as a conversational piece for
> > his group, apparently it has a Wider attraction.
> > Indicative of the wider attraction is the number of folks who seem to
> > take it seriously.
> > I've visited the "bud" site only once and it seems that something
> > Major is missing: there is not input by the disciples/students of the
> > the "rated" Guru.
> > Jeff, so you don't think it peculiar that you invite people to rate
> > you when your function here is not that of a Guru?
> > Who better to rate a Teacher/Guru then those who have Worked with the
> > Guru, those who have been with the Guru through Thick and
> > Thin....those who can Conclude either Yes, I have been benefitted by
> > my association with HIM/HER or NO, I have not benefitted from being
> > with HIM/HER.
> > My questions to such a Disciple what then be ....so tell me, What
> > have you learned and How have you changed, progressed and developed.
> > Some here may say "Yes, Jeff is Insightful, Industrious, Experienced
> > and Funny"....the same can be said about Others who have not "taken"
> > up the Guru mantle.
> > Perhaps before we do this "little" Guru rating thing, isn't it fair
> > to Ask...."where are your Disciples (those who call you "Guru") and
> > how do They rate you?"
> > At this point, all I can rate is your Participation/Contribution as a
> > Group Member (here and there): I cast my Vote for you...3 buds =
> > an "exceptional" Member. ;)
> > cjl
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