7327Re: [Meditation Society of America] Re: Truth does the work Karta-Dan
- May 3, 2003Howdy Karta,
> > Come off it pleeeeze Dan!Jason: Dan can't come off it, he can't even get on it.
> > you sound like that mutated oki whenJason: Why then, isn't this as obvious as your stating
> > talking about "stastes* etc
> > THERE IS NO LIFE WITHOUT BEINFG IN
> > A *SATE*
> > OK?`
it is? I just can't seem to figure out an arguement
that is presented..
> > and some choses to work on refning itJason: Very good, this refinement sounds like fun!
> > KartaHowdy over there Dan,
> Karta -
> This is exactly why Gautama said "life is suffering"Jason: Funny, I'm certain I like to suffer :)
> because of the going in and out of states of
> And you can work on going into your desired statesJason: No one really has a choice but to work on the
> all you want -- that is nothing but your
commings and goings, it seems. So, in turn those
commings and goings are beginings and endings
perpetuated by the desire to be a comer and goer. In
this sense there is no begining or ending.
> Gautama taught the end of suffering.Jason: No end, only the belief that it's over. When it
does end we won't know about it.
> It is the end of the one going in and out of states,Jason: HaHa!
> and of the states of which that one goes in and
> Of course, the one going in and out of states, isn'tJason: A perfect definition of our seperation in this
> going to like this news, and will find all kinds
> of ways to ignore and distort this truth if
> so as to keep on with the same old investments,
> whether dressed in spiritual or material clothes.
union. I think what is obvious here is to notice that
since we all are comers and goers, this being
dreadfully obvious, in that instant there is a union.
Then the in and out states can be seen and enjoyed.
> > > If Truth works through you, then there is onlyJason: If there is only truth then I'm sure we would
> Truth --
> > > not anything or anyone apart -- to be
> promoted, bashed,
> > > to get into or out of a state --
all be within the parameters of only this truth (of
course there isn't only truth since truth would have
no parameters) Unfortunatly the ones that desire to
know this as truth are still the ones perpetuating the
comming and goings. I know what your saying about
truth here, I just enjoy giving us shit about all our
commings and goings.
> > > -- DanPeace and Love
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