5561Re: Meditation benefit
- Mar 30, 2003--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Jeff Belyea"
> --- In email@example.com, devianandi <The words of Swami Swarupananda written above, explain exactly the
> no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Jeff Belyea"
> > <jeff@s...> wrote:
> > > To quote my good friend
> > > Swami Swarupananda, on one
> > > of the benefits of meditation...
> > >
> > > "In that middle space between
> > > waking and sleeping, a state where
> > > theta brainwaves predominate,
> > > one has a chance of direct
> > > experience of truth.
> > > The conscious filters are down
> > > and after one becomes accustomed to
> > > the background noise of what is
> > > fashionably called the unconscious...
> > > one has the chance for what many
> > > Eastern traditions call Samadhi...
> > > i.e. direct experience of the ONE...
> > > that quantum physics (like the works
> > > of Dr. David Bohme and so many others)
> > > point to and Holy Men for thousands
> > > of years have been pointing to also."
> > >
> > > Nice gift wrapping, Swamiji.
> > >
> > > Enjoying the gift of life,
> > >
> > > Jeff
> > devi: is it really that simple?
way realization of truth happened to me, in a rising morning on july
of 2001. I do not remember the date, for this happening didn't meant
anything as extraordinary that it should
be recorded with time, date, etc. It was the most ordinary, simple
and absolutely evident knowing, (something like: "of course!!!!!!...
how couldn't i had even imagined this before????....
was i stupid or what?!!!") which immediately afterwards during the
course of that same day, atonished, i could check with other people
that this was not so easy to "understand" nor it meant that we were
stupid at all. Now i know it is not "understandable" intellectually.
What happened (and let me be very clear on this: it never ceases to
happen, it is what is "happening' right now, here, you could
say "all the time" just to use a conventional saying) was so simple,
so natural, in the midst of sleep or waking!, (i do not know) that
this is why i say that i did nothing for it, for "i" was not there.
There is not a person that makes it, or deserves it, etc, because
the person has to "disappear" for this event to take place. Ok, i
have been seeking this Truth for all my life, but not when asleep,
Afterwards, the person that woke up, took the children to school and
proceeded to live
a quite common day in the middle of some neutral week, was a person
that knew and understood something new, something that very
naturally blew up every kind of held up belief or disbelief, which
reaaaaally gave a liberating new sense of being and Living Life, and
a slow growing and increasing flow of peace beneath all the mind's
activities, which never ended, though began to slow down. Instead,
from then on, these mind's activities didn't meant ever again a
terrible struggle or suffering (to hold on to pain, as i understand
the word suffering), but just only that: activities of the mind.
That day i went through the book of Ramana Maharshi: "Talks", and
looked for some explanation. Before that day, i had read that book
many times, for so long, understanding nothing, but just small
glances of what was said. But then i opened the book and found in
the first glance something about the state called "Jagrat-Sushupti",
a state of mind between the deep sleep and waking states, in which a
Nirvikalpa Samadhi can take place. So this was the first explanation
i had of this extraordinary-ordinary happening.
"In that middle space between waking and sleeping, a state where
theta brainwaves predominate, one has a chance of direct experience
of truth. The conscious filters are down and after one becomes
accustomed to the background noise of what is fashionably called the
unconscious.....one has the chance for what many Eastern traditions
call Samadhi...........................i.e. direct experience of the
ONE.....that quantum physics (like the works of Dr. David Bohme and
so many others) pointto and Holy Men for thousands of years have
been pointing to also." Swami Swarupananda
I am an experiential "witness" of this. Beyond it, (Realization of
the truth), nothing can be more scientific.
The issue here is that this "experiment" cannot be experienced by
many at the same time so there is nothing to prove to "another",
nothing "mind" can express nor define or explain, for what is
realized is precisely that there is nothing else apart from I-I,
which arises from Source, Pure Eternal Existence or whatever you may
call it, not "many" or "several" individuals.
Paradoxical???? you can bet.
A scientific experiment to be done, lived, experienced, understood,
checked and prooved by One alone.
All the love,
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