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17344Re: [Meditation Society of America] Clarity beyond the limitations of word exchange and description

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  • Greg Brown
    Jul 16, 2010
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      Thank you for your reply. I have read it and will read it again, ponder it and be with it.
      Peace, Greg.

      "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats!"
      :Henry Louis Mencken (1880 - 1956).


      --- On Wed, 7/14/10, dan330033 <dan330033@...> wrote:

      From: dan330033 <dan330033@...>
      Subject: [Meditation Society of America] Clarity beyond the limitations of word exchange and description
      To: meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 4:20 PM

      Clarity isn't limited, is the actuality of being aware, is not provided through a description, and is immediately evident.

      Clarity is being the entire "scene," the ocean, sky, universe, undivided.

      Words are exchanged above the water, and involve the tip of the iceberg, so to speak.

      The actuality of the understanding, which is totality, is the whole iceberg, and the ocean and sky.

      The words can say, "there is no other, you've never talked with another," and so on, in many, many ways. Perhaps the sentient being reading the message understands immediately the primordial truth of being with no division. Possible, but unlikely, because truth doesn't involve going from words to truth. So, only if the words are read in and as immediate understanding of truth via being ...

      Words can become a point of contention, disagreement, can be treated as a philosophical stance to be disputed, and so forth. Of course, this points to the limitation of "pointings" - the only relevant issue is releasing self-constructed illusion and belief in the illusion, which is delusion or ignorance. All of this occurs only through one's being, and through readiness to see without illusion and delusion as props.

      The understanding which is the whole iceberg involves no dispute whatsoever, no ignore-ing, no philosophical position, no other way to see or be this.

      The division of the tip of the iceberg from the whole iceberg, the seeming division of above the water from below the water and from the whole ocean, isn't resolved through exchanging ideas or coming to new ideas.

      That is the limitation of teachings.

      It also isn't resolved through sitting in the right position, or getting a new image to present to others in the world.

      Resolution certainly doesn't involve disputing characteristics of another person ...

      The resolution involves all of who one is, throwing off the division you constructed when reality was interpreted to involve divisions between this sentient being and that sentient being.

      In other words, self vs. other, with space and distance between, with differences in the intentions, desires, perspectives of self vs. other. These divisions are understood for what they are, imaginary separations in consciousness, so to speak, and therefore are resolved immediately upon the seeing.

      The resolution involves no philosophical position or possibility of contention, and so is "perfect peace," "stillness that includes sound," "just being as is, timeless."

      - D -

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