17026Re: Enlightenment Myths
- Feb 24, 2010Hello West...
Thanks for your insight. Comments below.
> > Faithe:strongly, but if one goes with not trying to kill the ego then suffering
> > To attempt to kill or not to kill the ego...is there any difference
> > here?
> My experience is if you try to kill the ego, it just pops up more
Could you please give me an example of the "suffering" which you say
incurs when one does not try to kill the ego.
> > Is there any difference between the "teacher" and the "seeker". Isnot
> > the "teacher" just another person that is seeking to change anotheror
> > whether it be through repeating "lofty messages with hidden meaning"
> > encouragement through offering comforting words to make one feelgood
> > themselves?the teachers. The teachers were in it for the power and money. However,
> > Could it be that the "teacher" is actually the "ultimate seeker" -
> > seeking others in order to keep their own beliefs afloat within
> > themselves?
> My experience from the 1970s was the seekers were more evolved than
I did find one teacher after I had meditated for 45 minutes per day on
average for twenty-two years who had some real guidance for me at a
The term "more evolved" eludes me. Could you give me a description of
one who is "more evolved"? Who is it that gets to determine whether one
is "more evolved" than others?
Is one who is "more evolved" able to write and speak better than others?
Or, to be "more evolved" must one travel to the hills and live a life
alone experimenting with one's belly button?
>completely, that the spiritual path is not for them, too hard to do at
> Well, the vast majority of people in India would agree with you
this time so why bother even thinking about it. Perhaps some other life
time, maybe. This path is not something I can recommend to anyone,
friend or foe. For me though, it is the most important thing in my life
by far, the whole 40 years starting since I was 30. You are content so
stay the course.
The spiritual path is harder than living the mundane life? I beg to
differ with you. My experience finds that those seeking spirituality are
attempting to escape mundane life.
Is there a thing --- an essence, if you will, that can really be
identified as "spiritual"? Can it be that "spiritual" is a mind mirage
as opposed to an optical mirage?
You comment that I am content, so I should stay the course. That is not
it at all. Basically, I am NOT content to run away from learning the
hard lessons of the mundane life by jumping into a spiritual fantasy.
Why is this quest for "spirituality" so important to you...I am musing
here...just a rhetorical question.
So different, we are. That is just the way it is. I respect your quest
for a spiritual life...I just question what it is that makes you think
it is so difficult.
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