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16156Re: [Meditation Society of America] The Bhagavad Gita 7

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  • Bruce Morgen
    Mar 23, 2008
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      The Islamic concept of jihad
      is understood in a similarly
      bifurcated way -- Muslim
      moderates tend to see it as
      referring to an inner
      struggle toward understanding
      and righteousness, while
      various fundy factions
      interpret it literally as war
      against "infidels" on behalf
      of Islam itself.


      sean tremblay wrote:
      > yep, I understand it both ways
      > --- Jeff Belyea <jeff@...> wrote:
      >
      >
      >> Sean -
      >>
      >> Krisna's advice to Arjuna is
      >> in the context of consciousness.
      >> The battleground is the mind
      >> and the concepts that the illusory
      >> and secondary identity (ego)
      >> finds so precious.
      >>
      >> Enlightenment - in one aspect, the
      >> victory over ego attachments - reveals
      >> a primary identity that has absolute
      >> clarity and no unanswered questions
      >> ...nothing to resolve...perfect peace
      >> of mind and utter tranquility.
      >>
      >> Jeff
      >>
      >>
      >> --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com,
      >> sean tremblay
      >> <bethjams9@...> wrote:
      >>
      >>> And has been the rallying battle cry of all
      >>>
      >> commanders
      >>
      >>> to the troops of all nations who make war!
      >>> In the context of Ajuna's reluctance in a military
      >>> sense, this is something I myself have struggled
      >>>
      >> with.
      >>
      >>> I learned my trade i the US Army and my Darma is
      >>>
      >> to
      >>
      >>> explore, ever sense I was a boy I have had an
      >>> insatiable curiosity. However in the context of
      >>> soldiering I was always at odds I am realy an
      >>> anarchist at heart with a didain for authority and
      >>>
      >> a
      >>
      >>> dislike of possesing authority over others yet....
      >>>
      >> I
      >>
      >>> find the military in some form or other keeps
      >>>
      >> creeping
      >>
      >>> it's way back into my life!? A karmic cycle I must
      >>> break? purhaps or Something I must give into?!
      >>> --- sandeep chatterjee <sandeep1960@...> wrote:
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>> Thus spake Osama to the new Al Queda recruits.
      >>>>
      >>>> westwindwood2003 wrote:
      >>>>
      >>>>> Swerve Not From Duty 31 to 37
      >>>>> 31. One is born into the class of people that
      >>>>>
      >>>> fight for
      >>>>
      >>>>> righteousness, and nothing is higher that this
      >>>>>
      >>>> duty, so look at not
      >>>>
      >>>>> to waver.
      >>>>> 32. It has happened at this time that the gift
      >>>>>
      >> of
      >>
      >>>> enlightenment is
      >>>>
      >>>>> apparent; O partha of the fighting class, go
      >>>>>
      >> into
      >>
      >>>> this battle.
      >>>>
      >>>>> 33. But if you avoid this righteous warfare
      >>>>>
      >> that
      >>
      >>>> is you fame, your
      >>>>
      >>>>> duty, abandonment shall incur sin.
      >>>>> 34. Your dishonor will be told about by the
      >>>>>
      >>>> honored and this
      >>>>
      >>>>> everlastingly so and exceeds the pain of death
      >>>>>
      >>>>> 35. Other warriors who have experienced
      >>>>>
      >>>> enlightenment and currently
      >>>>
      >>>>> hold you in high esteem will decide you are a
      >>>>>
      >>>> light weigh for
      >>>>
      >>>>> withdrawing from the battle for the spiritual.
      >>>>>
      >>>>> 36. Belittling words are to be spoken and many
      >>>>>
      >>>> will say your enemies
      >>>>
      >>>>> will criticize your petty power. What could
      >>>>>
      >> be
      >>
      >>>> more painful than
      >>>>
      >>>>> this?
      >>>>> 37. In death you will gain heaven; victorious
      >>>>>
      >> you
      >>
      >>>> will enjoy the
      >>>>
      >>>>> earth. Therefore Arjuna, be resolved to
      >>>>>
      >> fight.
      >>
      >>>>>
      >>>>>
      >>>>
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