16082Re: What is Your Meditation Like
- Mar 1, 2008so you must tell us what these exercises are !
"simulated dreams/translogical exercises"
sounds very interesting ! please do go on !
I should add, I had a profound experience in meditation today.
I decided to do some mid morning and wound up awakening two to three
hours later. I fell into some trance dream, very intense, colorful,
joyful. when I came out of it I was filled with pleasure and joy, it
did not feel like I had been asleep, like a further journey perhaps,
but I was most renewed and rested. I have no conscious memory of WHAT
happened, just the feeling of peace and joy,
it was so profound, and with me the whole day.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "jogeshwarmahanta"
> Just I came out from the class at 11.20am imparting 2 practical
> exercises on simulated dreams/translogical exercises with a view to
> (1)stimulate brain cells to keep them healthy(2)prevent bad dreams
> and so on.Participants of every hue enjoy the experience.
> --- In email@example.com, medit8ionsociety
> <no_reply@> wrote:
> > --- In
> firstname.lastname@example.org, "westwindwood2003"
> > <westwindwood2003@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Here is mine:
> > >
> > > I was thinking about how natural it is to meditate. In a
> > > rural setting, my eyes gaze upon the wonderful surroundings and
> it is
> > > just myself taking it in and not analyzing it. Some gardens are
> > > specifically laid out for meditation, a garden at a Zen temple
> > > instance. The intellectual mind just stops and I am left with
> > > feelings coming to the fore of my consciousness. At another
> time I
> > > will be doing a simple task like washing dishes and again my
> > > and emotional propensities come into view. Before I became wise
> > > the ways of meditation, I would shut off these feelings flowing
> > > my awareness because invariably it would seem that the subject
> > > would have a turmoil to it that would be uncomfortable,
> > > disconcerting, needing a way out of what came to the forefront.
> > >
> > > I prefer these natural ways of meditating because with a mantra,
> > > breath watching, a candle flame, a rosary, the meditative state
> > > occupied much of the time with the method of getting into
> > > and there is less room for the unconscious desires that are
> > > up my life to come forth for resolution. There are other
> > > states for comparison. In a state of sexual passion, the
> > > intellectual mind shuts down and a lot of feelings come forth
> and at
> > > a peak even feelings seem to shut down, but what happens is much
> > > intense that meditation, and maybe a baby is created into a
> > > home. There are drugs that bring forth visions, such as LSD,
> > > opiates, or alcohol addiction hallucinations (well, I never
> > > experienced that), but there is no single subject that flows
> > > into awareness and evolves towards recognition with drug-induced
> > > visions. Sleep brings dreams, and this is much more intense than
> > > meditation, and if the subject matter of a dream is deliberately
> > > remembered while meditating, the feeling brought forth is much
> > > intense that what is normally experienced in meditation.
> > >
> > > It seems for me that meditation only brings up as much as can be
> > > dealt with and after meditating for about 45 minutes the issue
> > > subject that came up in meditation resolves into a single clear
> > > awareness of the problem. Now enlightenment when it first is
> > > revealed to a person is much more intense than any above
> > > altered states and from enlightenment flows a wisdom not of ones
> > > nature about what to do with the issue that came to clarity
> > > meditating for 45 minutes. If a person follows what that wisdom
> > > tells them to do, the person eventually evolves towards what
> > > enlightenment wisdom is and after lifetimes merges into it.
> > >
> > Yo Westwind,
> > I resonate with much of what you are sharing
> > and recognize some things that we differ about,
> > such as the statements about dreams being "much
> > more intense than meditation". But I think we
> > may just have different things in mind when we
> > use the terms we do that are meant to describe
> > various states of consciousness. For instance,
> > to answer 'What Meditation Is Like For Me', I feel
> > that before meditation became an ongoing part of
> > my life, I was in a dream-like state even when I
> > was "awake". And nothing in that level of consciousness
> > was really clear or "Real", much like a fetus cannot
> > be said to be appreciating the full experience of
> > life as a human. And with meditation, just as the new-born
> > child can see, hear, taste, smell, and feel in
> > a way that never was known before, the adult in
> > us can relate to Reality in ways never before possible.
> > In any event, I enjoy what you share and it points
> > to beneficial concepts that are well worth
> > meditating upon.
> > Peace and blessings,
> > Bob
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