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15844Re: Can the truth set you free?

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  • jvmarco
    Jan 8, 2008
      A potential destiny perhaps, but not a certain one. The time-table
      of the Great Feminine could very well cancel out the universe before
      such a birthing of human beingness occurred, in which case humankind
      would cease to exist.

      From my observations, all meditation eventually leads to Heart-Mind,
      and from Heart-Mind is uncovered the compassion of the Bodhisattva to
      be dedicated to the liberation from suffering, and the cause of
      suffering, for all sentient beings. If such a destiny of truth was
      certain, there would be no Bodhisattvas. In other words, one could
      say that no Bodhisattva is a guru, if a guru is defined as one who
      has an enthusiasm for an eventuality that is is uncertain. Of
      course, an authentic Bodhisattva is not the least bit interested in
      enlightenment. Their interest is in bringing more light and love
      into this reality, not enlightenment.

      One way of bringing more light and love in, is to identify the false
      as the false.

      Eckhart Tolle said in 'The Power of Now', page 4, "we need to draw
      our attention to what is false in us, for unless we learn to
      recognize the false as the false, there can be no lasting
      transformation, and you will always be drawn back into illusion, for
      that is how the false perpetuates itself" Many guru's actually
      perpetuate the false.


      --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Belyea"
      <jeff@...> wrote:
      > OK, agreed. Yet the consistent
      > and universal set-you-free
      > "truth", once known, brings
      > with it the certain sense that
      > awakening to truth is the destiny
      > of humankind.
      > Understanding this, even
      > intellectually, without the
      > direct experience of enlightenment,
      > seems to be why many of the nondual
      > (no separation) mindset feel
      > that the "gurus", in their
      > attunement to and enthusiasm
      > for this eventuality,
      > over-promise, and that we
      > should just allow it to play
      > out...rather than bemoan
      > the fact that most people
      > are not ready for it - today.
      > As for the timetable,
      > that's a different story.
      > It seems that Mother Nature
      > or Divine Mother moves at a
      > very different pace than the
      > impatience of one lifespan.
      > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jvmarco"
      > <jvmarco@> wrote:
      > >
      > >
      > > Many claim to be dedicated to diverse spiritual realities and
      > > awakening. For most however, the brain, the ego, the pleasure
      > > etc., do not want you fascinated with the idea of truth or waking
      > > Such a burning fascination would bring the demise of the brain,
      the ego,
      > > the pleasure centers, etc., as the personal thinking process
      knows them.
      > >
      > > I agree that the truth will set you free, but to have a genuine,
      > > fascination with truth is very rare,...most people do not want the
      > > truth, they want useless happiness, and thus its mate, useless
      > > suffering. The realization of truth will bring the demise of
      > > and the thinking patterns associated with those beliefs.
      > >
      > > Today's human community cannot handle the truth,...truth is too
      > > to be consciously included in the lives people seek.
      > >
      > > E = mc2 is a partial truth that many accept. Whereas mc2 < c is
      > > fuller truth that most refuse to see; a truth in which everything
      > > means everything) can be understood through the cognition of that
      > > equation. All energy and mass is less than the speed of light.
      > > however, cling to the idea of energy and mass as something real,
      > > something to be worship like the religious superstititions of
      > > ancestors. The truth is that energy and mass is not real, nor
      does it
      > > exist beyond the dream of separation. Energy is simply the motion
      > > mass seeking a relationship with its source,...a relationship it
      > > never have, because the condition of separation cannot merge with
      > > unconditionality of source. Wholeness is beyond the sum of
      > > The sum of opposites is their cancellation.
      > >
      > > Every teaching of Buddhism points to the fuller truth of the
      > > above,...likewise, the Fourth Way philosophy (enneagram) points
      to the
      > > above,...and Maya and Bön Cosmology also points to the above. Yet
      > > even the adherents to those philosophies have not gone beyond
      > > beliefs to see the truth. Most people, perhaps more than 99% of
      > > world's population, are not conscious of even a single full
      > > do they want to.
      > >
      > > People do not want to understand that the quantum process applies
      > > humans as well as sub-atomic particles. They do not want to know
      > > there cannot be a present or instant in time. The often expressed
      > > 'present time' is an oxymoron. Neither science, religion, nor New
      > > philosophy desires to move beyond its own theories,...to have a
      > > renaissance like view of the patterns that weave our existence.
      So even
      > > though truth will set us free, few wish to let go of the desire of
      > > useless happiness, that they cling to for their identity, and to
      > > authentically embrace the truth. Most people do not want the "who
      > > they think they are" to disappear. They desire to bring their
      > > into the unconditional,...yet truth will never allow that to
      > >
      > > Vicente
      > > author of mc2 < c
      > > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1425136486
      > > <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1425136486>
      > >
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