1565Re: Pesky thoughts
- Dec 30, 2002Hi Bob:
So many people have mentioned the Satchitanada translation I will
have to pick it up when I see it. I have Iyengar's which is great
because of all his personal word of mouth knowledge (did you know
Patanjali was the greatest dancer of ancient India?), Vivekananda's,
D'Andrade's, Alice Bailey's and a couple of others.
It starts to make sense after a while.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, medit8ionsociety
> Hi Bobby G,to
> Good to hear/read from you, and thanks for sharing these pointings
> reality. I've felt for a long time that Patanjali said it all, andas
> that all the books about meditation that have followed for the past
> many centuries have only been rehashing his presentation. The Yoga
> Sutras of Patanjali form the basis for all of Raja Yoga, and merge
> well with Jhana Yoga as well. I've always favored Swami
> Satchidananda's translation and commentary best, with Swami
> Prabhavananda's close thereafter, but when I see such great stuff
> >"It is not the idea but the attitude about the idea that isinvolved.
> distracting. Attachment, aversion, etc indicate the ego is
> However, recognition of that fact when it happens is not anI
> affliction, but simply valid cognition. Taking credit for it is.",
> think I'm going to have to include Sri Bobby G's commentary in thatvrittis.
> special realm of divine in-sight.
> --- In email@example.com, "texasbg2000
> <Bigbobgraham@a...>" <Bigbobgraham@a...> wrote:
> > Hi Bob and everybody:
> > I do not post here often but I try to keep up with the posts. It
> > a very interesting and worthwhile message board. I have noticed
> > messages about mind chatter and thoughts and the mind. The
> > may shed some light on the wonderful phenomenon of thought.
> > Patanjali wrote in such insightful and thorough fashion about the
> > entire system of how the mind works that it is worthwhile to see
> > his writings say about this issue.
> > P. writes about thoughts in categories. He refers to them as
> > fluctuations or disturbances of the consciousness called
> > Sleep is one. The other four categories of thought are found inbut
> > I.6-11. They are: misconception, valid cognition, fantasy, and
> > memory. When they are restricted the Seer abides in its essence.
> > (I.3)
> > Before listing the fluctuations he says:
> > I.5 These fluctuations are fivefold; afflicted or non-afflicted.
> > The afflictions are named in Book II.3: Ignorance, I-am-ness,
> > aversion, attachment, and the will to live, are the causes of
> > affliction.
> > Thoughts may not be afflicted or stem from ignorance. They may
> > arise from a mind that is without the causes of affliction. This
> > why attachment to ideas is warned against. It is not the idea
> > the attitude about the idea that is distracting. Attachment,aversion,
> > aversion, etc indicate the ego is involved. However, recognition
> > that fact when it happens is not an affliction, but simply valid
> > cognition. Taking credit for it is.
> > It can be a little confusing because the word attachment is used
> > any of the afflictions in the broad sense ( attachment to
> > or to I-am-ness).
> > Patanjali put these ideas first in Yoga Sutra. He must have felt
> > important to start out an understanding of the mind with an
> > understanding of them. What you understand is easier to control
> > Love
> > Bobby G.
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