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  • Bruce Morgen
    Aug 5, 2007
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      All seems quite dependent on
      the relative impact of "baby"
      vs. "bathwater," doesn't it?
      Both Freud and Jung were
      demonstrably innovative in
      the context of their times
      and field of endeavor -- imo
      Hawkins isn't even close to
      qualifying in that respect,
      so I'm not seeing much of a
      "baby" in/from him, but of
      course ymmv.

      sean tremblay wrote:
      > Parallels to this question can be drawn from the history of
      > psychoanalysis. Freud revolutionized psychiatric medicine, but he was
      > a misogynistic cocaine addict. Jung also made great changes and
      > contributions to psychology but he was an egotistical racist. So I
      > suppose this is one of those baby and bathwater scenarios.
      > */medit8ionsociety <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>/* wrote:
      > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com
      > <mailto:meditationsocietyofamerica%40yahoogroups.com>, Bruce Morgen
      > <editor@...> wrote:
      > >
      > > David Hawkins lost any credibility
      > > he might have had when he rated
      > > the current American president's
      > > integrity and/or spiritual state
      > > very highly. No reflection on
      > > ACIM as a tool in one's personal
      > > seeking, but from here Hawkins is
      > > himself spiritually radioactive.
      > >
      > > As Bhagavan Sri Bob Dylan Ji put it
      > > many moons ago, "Don't follow
      > > leaders, watch yer parkin' meters!"
      > >
      > Yo Sri Bruceji,
      > I don't know if that means that Dr Hawkins has
      > no credibility. Don't you agree that someone could
      > have integrity and/or a high spiritual state
      > and still be completely inept, dangerous, stupid,
      > and delusional?:-)
      > Semi-seriously, there is someone very close to me
      > who has (in my never humble enough opinion)
      > "Awakened" who attributes the doors of perception
      > first opening in part to the doc's first book and
      > has said that the following books helped cement the
      > reality firmly in place. For me, I do enjoy
      > most of what I've read of the doc, and the videos
      > I've seen of his lectures were delight-full, but
      > here's a web site that has plenty of good stuff
      > without any statements that are bush league:
      > http://www.atman.net/realization/ <http://www.atman.net/realization/>
      > Peace and blessings,
      > Bob
      > Peace and blessings,
      > Bob
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