15313Re: give the suggestion
- Apr 6, 2007--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Jeff Belyea"
>I agree with all what Jeff wrote. In Surat Shabd mystic meditation
> Dear Armaan,
> The fear of death, or the feeling
> that you are going to die in meditation
> is the threshold of enlightenment.
> It is the ego - the self that identifies
> with thinking and meditating - that feels
> the impending threat of death. But it is
> only a death of old belief systems. If
> the fear pulls you out of deep meditation
> and back into self-consciousness, then
> you are not ready for enlightenment.
> You can choose to continue or not, but
> you can only cross the threshold by
> completely surrendering, and staying
> in the deep meditation, risking everything,
> including what feels like death.
> Once the threshold is crossed, the ego
> is delighted with the discovery of the
> Self (the higher Self), or what Ramana
> called the "I-I", and Osho called "The
> New Man".
> It is as if we believed our everyday
> consciousness and awareness was our true
> identity, only to discover (awaken to)
> the fact that there is a "higher" more
> complete awareness that makes the
> self-consciousness awareness seem
> illusory or secondary.
> This awakened awareness (enlightenment)
> is always reported as blissful because
> it is a graceful granting of complete
> freedom from fear and doubt, and a sure
> knowledge of our true identity.
> It requires complete surrender to
> drink from its cup - including the
> yielding to what seems like death.
> Reading Osho, you will find many
> of his teaching in this regard.
> Hope this is helpful.
> --- In email@example.com, armaan shah
> <armaanwithu@> wrote:
> > Dear meditators,
> > I am anees babu is meditating for last 3 years .First time when
> I heard about osho and know what is meditation through osho's books
> since then I am learning the meditation,I mean I try each moments of
> life with total knowledge .In last three years my life is total
> changed I knew why I knew I m on right way.One thing all meditators
> knew that expression and feelings could not be define in words.
> Beause truth can not be define I believe also.In last three years I
> have joined the camp for three times at oshodham delhi.I hav
> meditating in the camp of ma dhram jyoti and vragya amrit.
> > But I do not meditate by sitting with close my eyes while I
> meditate by lying with close my eyes.As well as I try to live each
> moment of life with total knowledge ,full of energy,full
> concentration .I try to live each moment of life with as a living
> thing not as non living thing. I try to forget the thoughts of
> meditation or anything related this journey with doing any work.
> > Three or four times when I was meditating with close of my eyes
> I have shocked I means it did not happen befor i do not know I was
> whr but something is unknown than I have forget myself still I had
> power to come back, first time when it happened I feard very much and
> come back as soon than I did not dare to meditating with close of my
> eyes for about three months but after three monts I did meditate
> with close of my eyes with the thoughts of do or die .
> > This is happened three or four times in last one year, I don't
> know what is that so I am requested to you please help me what is
> that ,this position was only less than a minute or more than a minute
> I did not know.
one travels through 'planes' which are: physical, astral. mental,
causal, and beyond. The fear what you talk about happens when leaving
the mind behind (mental plane) before one enters into Nirvi-kalpa samadhi.
> > One thing I also share with you now a days my journey is going
> very deep I mean I am learning more and more in each moment. I have
> not much theoretical knowledge than practical about meditation. I
> had no guru (teacher) because I think guru is very useful for this
> journey but sometimes guru is trouble for this journey that's why I
> am learning mediation and listen many of enlightened person like
> Mahesh yogi ,.osho ,lao tau on web site.
> > Now a days when I am trying to live each moment of life with
> total knowledge feels like a drunker.I mean as much I feel after
> drunk feeling since one month without drink.
> > What is happening with mind
> > I am waiting for your answer ,Am I right on journey ?
> > What u suggest ?
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