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15148Re: Three 1/2 years.......nothing!

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  • cbondnelms
    Dec 13, 2006
      Hi Sean:

      I'm glad you found some answers. I had the same issue you had.
      My problem was mind racing. I just couldn't stop it. My mind seemed
      to think that because I was trying to bring stillness to my thoughts,
      it had to fill it with something. It would drive me crazy. I
      started using tools. I'm a producer, so I used visuals. I use video
      clips to get me started. I can then flow right into a meditative
      state. I have some clips at http://www.tranquilityisyours.com

      I make sure my windows media player is on repeat and I use the clips
      as a visual tool, or close my eyes and use the audio as the tool to
      help me move past mind racing and into a meditative state. It works
      for my and several others I've heard from. I can log on anywhere and
      use them just to calm me down.

      If you get stuck again, see if it works for you.

      Good Luck,


      --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "the32family"
      <the32family@...> wrote:
      > Thanks for all the responses.What I'm looking for,I guess,first is
      > clear head and a clear perspective on life,so that I may make
      > decisions from the outside looking in and properly
      > analyze "things".Secondly,would be a connection,a transmittance,if
      > you will.I would like to turn my will over to or at least have it
      > nudged by "God"(insert name there)lol
      > When I first came upon self-realization,the impact was sooo great.I
      > felt invincible for a few months.However,without going into
      > detail,things were much more stable at that time.I have a little
      > stress to overcome at this time,perhaps if things were still stable
      > would be further along in my growth,but,for sure,it has gotten me
      > through a lot.
      > OK,I will stop babbling,I am very happy to be a part of your
      > sincerely appreciate all the input and hopefully,I can provide some
      > tidbits here and there as well(who knows>lol)
      > Thanks
      > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, Marc Moss
      > <jellybean0729@> wrote:
      > >
      > >
      > > Dear Sean,
      > >
      > > Don't give up and don't be discouraged. My first question
      is "do
      > you have a teacher?" There are so many ingredients for successful
      > meditation and having a teacher has an enormous effect in so many
      > ways. From getting the correct information in a lineage that works,
      > secrets of the practice that are generally not found in books, to
      > effect on the mind that a teacher has upon a student, the benefits
      > a "guru" are limitless.
      > >
      > > I would suggest that you look into the Diamond Mountain
      > University teachings, ACI teachings (www.world-view.org)
      > the applied mediation course, Alexander Berzin has terrific
      > that he has received and has shared throughout the years, H.H. the
      > Dalai Lama has terrific interpretations of Kamalashila's "Steps on
      > Meditation", the list of great reads with great information is
      > extensive. I personally swear by the teaching of Pabongka
      > book Liberation in the Palm of Your Hand. It is quite long and very
      > detailed. Without a teacher to help guide you, though you might get
      > little frightened with it, misunderstand it, or just lose interest.
      > >
      > > There are many expressions of the teachings of meditation out
      > there and they are suited to the student, not the ultimate. You
      > should first decide what it is that you wish to accomplish through
      > meditation and then find the teachings accordingly. If you don't
      > what you want, you won't really find a basis to discover it. You
      > would be amazed to find that you already meditate in a lot of
      > different things you do outside of crossing your legs and sitting
      > still. In classical meditation there are nine different mental
      > for the ordinary person. We typically might go through three or
      > of them in states of focused concentration and not know that's what
      > they are. You can take those experiences (like being absorbed in a
      > good book or movie, practicing piano, prayer for someone's better
      > health) and bring them onto the cushion so its not as foreign of an
      > experience for you.
      > >
      > > If I can be of help, you can email me here or contact me
      > directly. Anyone, as well from this group. 765.252.8398.
      > Jellybean0729@
      > >
      > >
      > > I have really enjoyed this group and hope that you do as well.
      > There are wonderful practitioners here that are truly looking to
      > and are open to be helped. There are soooo many different methods
      > meditation BUT they don't amount to a hill of beans if they don't
      > work for the practitioner. Something that helps this person might
      > be suitable for the next practitioner. I hope that you are able to
      > find a teacher that will know your needs and be able to help you
      > accordingly.
      > >
      > > Love to all,
      > > Marc Preston Moss
      > >
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      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > As long as space remains, as long as living beings remain,
      > then - may I too remain to dispel the sufferings of the world. -
      > Master Shantideva
      > >
      > >
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