15016Re: [Meditation Society of America] Meditation is Universal - - -
- Aug 2, 2006Ben , Des is right on. Follow your heart and you will only do the right thing. People have a tendency to follow others. This isn't wrong if they can't or just don't hear or trust themselves. You my friend sound as you do know
Des Brittain <desbrittain@...> wrote:
just keep meditating and allowing what happens to happen. You are on
the right path. Pay no attention to people who insist on talking in flowery
language and who seem to believe that Indian gurus and religion own the
patent on the inner life of us all. The answers will come from within.
Yeehaaaaaaa! Des Brittain.
>From: Benjamin Buehne
>Subject: Re: [Meditation Society of America] Meditation is Universal - - -
>Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 10:54:49 -0700 (PDT)
>I am not asking for all to ask for powers from
>anything, simply pointing out that the experience has
>the ability to unify. Encouragement to spread the
>practice. You believe this is wrong?
>--- prakki surya wrote:
> > True devotees never do penance for Siddhis. Radha,
> > Gopikas did not achieve any Siddhis. Demons like
> > Raavaa, Indrajit etc., did penance for only Siddhis
> > i.e., to achieve powers from Lord only. These
> > Siddhis did not finally save them. But Radha,
> > Gopikas etc., could get highest loka and these are
> > permanent also.
> > Generally people are interested in the powers of
> > Lord to get self-enjoyment in the form of visions,
> > telepathy, astral travel, power of curing diseases
> > etc .This is not the true path of devotion. The very
> > meaning of devotion is true love on Lord. People
> > aspire for spiritual growth. But the meaning of
> > their spiritual growth is more visions, get powers
> > for curing diseases of self and other to get name
> > and fame, perform miracles etc. These people have
> > not realised the Lord & His true devotion. Spiritual
> > growth itself means increase of devotion on Lord day
> > by day by getting more and more divine knowledge.
> > They do not have any trace of devotion on Lord. But
> > they pretend that they have devotion in front of
> > Lord for getting His powers. No human incarnation
> > had ever encouraged such things.
> > The reason for interest in His powers only (and
> > not in Lord) is greed for fame, selfishness etc.
> > Such people end up in such gurus only who encourage
> > these type of activities. They can never come near
> > to Satguru (Lord in Human form like Jesus, Krishna,
> > Mohd. Prophet, Buddha ..) who do not encourage such
> > activities. The real devotee are (like Gopikas,
> > Hanuman, Swami Vivekananda, Prahlada ....) diamonds
> > and remaining are like gravel stones. Lord is also
> > not bothered of gravel stones, which will be in
> > majority. Jesus also said the true path leading to
> > Lord is very very narrow with full of thorns with 2
> > or 3 people.
> > Once one got used to these powers, name, fame etc.
> > it is difficult to come out of this. This is a sort
> > of addiction. But Lord is not pleased with him and
> > will punish him latter. This is definitely not the
> > right path. Satguru (Lord in human form) also gives
> > divine visions to disciples to improve their faith.
> > Finally the divine knowledge only helps in getting
> > the real devotion towards the lord. As long as a
> > disciple wants to use his guru for his selfish ends,
> > he will get into that type of guru, who will utilise
> > his services for his benefit.
> > At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami
> > surya
> > www.universal-spirituality.org
> > Benjamin Buehne wrote:
> > Hello All,
> > I was meditating yesterday and had yet another
> > experience, afterwords I was inspired to write this.
> > It occurred to me how naturally universal Meditation
> > is, in particular, the experience. It was seen in
> > cultures worldwide. It is seen in almost every major
> > religion including the Roman Catholic Church and
> > Islam.
> > Universally it is seen as a way to get closer to
> > God, reguardless of what you believe God is. The
> > experiences are the same. Meditation and it's
> > effects, is one of the few universal experiences.
> > When you eat fish, what you taste is different from
> > what your neighbor tastes. When you see a cloud, you
> > may see a different image from that of your son.
> > When
> > you hear a song, you may consider it unnerving while
> > your teacher finds it relaxing. When you smell a
> > perfume you may find it beautiful while your boss
> > may
> > hate it. When you wear a sweater it may feel itchy
> > to
> > you and warm to your partner. Every singal sense we
> > have is subjective to the individual.
> > It is also difficult to find the Universality in
> > experiences. You may enjoy rollercoasters while
> > others are terrified. Some enjoy basketball while
> > others find it rough. The same goes for professions
> > as we each have our individual purposes.
> > Thank you for reading,
> > Ben
> > .
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