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14862Re: [Meditation Society of America] Re: Mixology

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  • Sandeep
    Apr 22, 2006



      > > > "There is no one to be
      > > > enlightened."
      And thus there is no one or nothing................. who or what................. is not already enlightened.

      The apperception of reality(to use a phrase) is the apperception that reality is not less somewhere or more somewhere else.

      There is no gradations, there are no levels, there are no stages..................thus  there is no alpha and there is no omega.

      And thus  no movement from a non-existant alpha to a non-existant omega.




      Which is why, for the enlightened (using  the usual conventional speak).....

      ......if there is an an "other".............other than himself/herself......

      ......an other un-enlightened seeker.............. who has to be taught, ............shown the path, corrected, given clarity to.........etc.....

      .....it is the same hoopla of any other gaming which dots that same reality.



      And yet, dialoguing, communicating, discourses take place, have taken place and will take place.

      The Jnaneshwars, Tukarams, the Buddhas, the Ramanas, the Rinzais,the Mansoods, the Arabis, the Nisargadattas...........and their specific unique lives......... have all occurred.

      Is there a contradiction?

      No, ...........as soon as it is apperceived,.............. that there is no investment, no baggage, no-to-be-achieved-agenda, with such a communicating.



      There is no communicating taking place to achieve anything,........... whether that be clarity or transmitting of Light, Sound, Enlightenment or whatever


      There is no communicating taking place between discrete, separated "selfs", ........one at some higher level and the other at a lower
      (which would mean that there are gradations, differential levels to Reality).


      And yet communicating happens.

      Happens as a nuance of the moment.

      Which needs a gestalt of dualistic poles, apparently separated.

      Thus, speaking happens apparently through the distinctive vehicle  labeled as the "Sage"......... to.......... the distinctive vehicle assumed to be the "seeker".

      But there is no "to" in this event-ing, .............the event-ing in which............ the speaking, the contents of the speech, the consequences of such a speaking.............AND......... the two apparently distinctive separated conditioned vehicles through which this functioning is occuring .....

      ......are ALL nuances of the same eventing.



      In the apperception of this.............who is then to seek to express clarity............... of what is already crystal clear?

      Who is to receive clarity.......... of what is already crystal clear?


      Thus the apperception................. that the communicating........... whether through a "Sage" or a through a "believing-himself-to-be a Sage", ..
      ...along with the consequences of such a communicating....

      ...just like any example of ANY functioning............making up the moment.......

      .......IS IN completion,........ in itself.


      In completion.........moment to moment to moment.



      As an example............ the arising urge to "do" a meditation technique............ the arising is already in completion.

      The external actualization of that urge into a specific physical action ,........ or the dissipation  of the urge into mentation.........is also in completion.




      This entire phenomenal gestalt, .............which is an array of perceivable objects, .......

      ......EACH existing as an mere image, as a reflection.........  in each other other.....

      .......the entire gestalt apparently made up of tremendous movement, "becomings", change, .......


      .......not a single aspect of it............... is not in completion.......... already.



      Tremendous journeys were undertaken by you...........within the last-night-sleep-dream-drama.

      Without you moving an inch from that 6 X 4 cot.





      True, in
      > > > the absolute sense of
      > > > nonduality. Yet, we are
      > > > living, breathing, typing
      > > > and communicating in the
      > > > world of duality.

      In the "Yet".............appears the sense of distinction.

      There is no "yet".

      The non-dual reality IS the apparent dualistic world of living, breathing, typing,communicating,............ of cyber-space and Internet Gurus and the whole debate on whether practice non-practice, neo-advaita and classical-dirty-your-hand-approach,......

      ...... the world of Dubya Bush and Bird-Flu, ..............of catastrophic genocide, ............and of romatic poetry, ..........

      ......of flitting butterflies basking in the sun-shine and of two Dark Holes each of the size of 100 Million Stars, currently merging into one another in deep-outer-space as reported by NASA recently.




      Non-Duality is never not the case..........while ever being transcendent to that very apparently dualistic expressing of itself.

      The immanence and the simultaneous transcendence.




      Just like the hoopla of the last-night-sleep-dream-drama, including all the dreamt-up characters,  including yourself,.......

      .......the pathos, the ethos, the seekings, the successes of those seekings, the failures of the seekings, the loved ones and the unloved ones, the relatings, the joys and sorrows, the agony and ecstasy  associated with each of those relatings, ........

      ........the experiences that you had which now define your own self-identity to yourself,.............

      ..........the "Truths" that you have realized.......

      .....in essence the entire hoopla of the last-night-sleep-dream-drama..............each and  every nuance of that hoopla....... was just you in expression.


      While, ...........you ever transcendent to that hoopla, ...........being the one sound asleep and snoring in a 6 X 4 cot.

      The immanence and the simultaneous transcendence.




      >
      > My point exactly. And when
      > the advaita-speakers speak
      > from the cloud of unknowing,
      > they are not adding clarity.

      The issue is not whether there is communicating which is adding to clarity, or which is not adding to clarity.

      The issue is,................. for whom does it hold a relevance,................... that clarity can be added, through expression.

      Or clarity can be subtracted, through expression.

      Clarity about that, ...........whose very expressing................... is the expression in question.....

      which is believed to achieve clarity or cloud clarity.






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