14033Re: WHAT IS TRANSMISSION ?
- May 17, 2005--- In email@example.com, "Jeff Belyea"
> --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "jodyrrr"That's what the magic apologists like to say.
> <jodyrrr@y...> wrote:
> > --- In email@example.com, "Jeff Belyea"
> > <jeff@m...> wrote:
> > > --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "subhash naik"
> > > <sbhshnaik@y...> wrote:
> > > ...all the past impressions
> > > > (called samskaras) which we have built up in our minds and that
> > > condition our
> > > > behaviour and existence.When the past impressions are
> > > eradicated,material
> > > > existence falls into its proper place,as does every other facet
> > > our existence.
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes, this is a most
> > > beautiful experience.
> > > The essence of it is
> > > written of in many
> > > philosophies, religions
> > > and spiritual traditions.
> > >
> > > When the conditioned
> > > self" gives way to
> > > the "True Self" one
> > > is absolved of all
> > > guilt and anguish -
> > > and everything,
> > > EVERYTHING, falls
> > > into place.
> > >
> > > The absolved one now
> > > faces existence in a
> > > whole new light, as
> > > a whole new being.
> > >
> > > "You shall know the
> > > Truth, and The Truth
> > > shall set you free."
> > >
> > > And, as The Tao says,
> > > "If it wasn't bullshit
> > > to the conditioned mind,
> > > it wouldn't be The Way."
> > That's all well and good. But the idea that
> > this happens by way of a magical transferrence
> > of some kind of mystical energy is bullshit.
> > It happens over time by way of deconditioning
> > and added clarity brought about by meditation.
> > You don't get something for nothing, and there's
> > no magical powers to do it for you.
> We don't know enough
> to know whether we
> know this or not.
"How can you know that you know."
Because I can find a more likely explantion
that doesn't resort to mystified nonsense.
And because *anything* in the realm of magical
is *always* phenomenological. So, two people
will experience their "magic" in completely
different ways. This puts such phenomena
squarely in the category 'imaginal,' IOW,
If someone gets a cold, they're likely to
believe it came from a germ rather
than believing a curse was set upon them.
But as soon as a "divine" guru enters the
equation, all reason flies right out the window,
and normally rational folk are prepared to
believe all kinds of utter nonsense. Just
hang out at an Amma satsang to catch a
It's a form of infantilism that pollutes
spiritual culture like a plague of ignorance.
And it keeps people from seeing the truth of
their own being, because they are taught to
believe it only comes by way of the magic
"transmissions" of their guru. It may as
well be a nocturnal emmission. At least then
you are getting something real, if not icky
and sticky and gross.
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