13601Re: [Meditation Society of America] Trina
- Jan 27, 2005???
I just really want to say Thank You myself to those of you who have
taken the time to share with me.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, sarif mir
> Thanks trinadoing,
> "T." <jedsgirl522@y...> wrote:
> How did you learn how to meditate?
> --- In email@example.com, "n0by"
> <n0by4you@y...> wrote:
> > In true meditation the meditator and the object of meditation are
> > longer present.
> > If there is intention to meditate then this intention, this
> > is coming from a doer. It comes from the concept ofone
> separation, "ME".
> > When meditation happens there is no one to whom it happens, no
> > happener making it happen.
> > Such moments cannot be brought about by methods, techniques or
> > practices as these are all ego based, based upon the idea that
> > is not already existence itself.in
> > The impulse to meditate arises when the action of seeking is
> > believed to be coming from a seeker, from "otherness", and this
> > turn creates something to be sought. Seeking is an activity, NOTOneness,
> > entity, in consciousness.
> > That which the seeking arises from is what is being sought. When
> > this is intuitively understood no deliberate attempt to meditate
> > arise as the impulse to do so is no longer present, having been
> > severed at the root by the realisation that there is only
> > that one is already what was being sought.chaotic -
> > This is true meditation, there is no longer a meditator, simply
> > meditation happening.
> > --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "T."
> > <jedsgirl522@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Okay! I tried what you suggested. First - my mind was of
> > > pretty loud and busy. I'm sure you expected that. I just
> > listened
> > > to it and took some "mental notes". Didn't seem really
> > > just busy.
> > >
> > > Then I tried the counting technique - and I fell asleep the
> > > time (dang!!) BUT - I tried the counting technique again
> > andwhat
> > > although I did a lot of thinking (dang!!) I just did what you
> > > suggested and mentally said "thinking" and went back to
> > > I'm not sure that I accomplished any sort of medatative state -
> > > however I was PLEASED to see that when I opened my eyes, 8
> > > had passed when I was SURE it would be only 3 or 4. So, that
> > > GOOD.
> > >
> > > I felt pretty relaxed and my hands and feet had a slight tingle
> > > I was surprised at how LONG it took to get to 10 (thinking!!
> LOL) -
> > > so, all in all I feel like it was a good experience. I will
> > > continue to use this method and keep you updated.
> > >
> > > Looking forward to my next lesson! *wink* and THANK YOU for
> > > the time with me - to teach me. I really appreciate you!
> > >
> > > Trina
> > >
> > > --- In email@example.com, Bob Hart
> > > <hartbd_62521@y...> wrote:
> > > > Hi Trina, try this, 1. first for 5 min just sit and watch
> > > goes on in your mind, don't try and do anything, just observe,in
> > > closed go ahead and do it now._____________________ Good what
> > > you see? what did you hear? there probably was a lot going on
> > > your head right? OK lesson 2. for 5 min choose one of thesethis
> > > practices, on the out breath count 1 every out breath count
> > > you get to 10 then start over ,, eyes closed both practices
> > oneall
> > > just say breathing in as you breat in and breathing out as you
> > > breate out. now try that for 5 min. go ahead and try it. What
> > > happen? Did you find that there wasn't room in your head for
> > theare
> > > chatter this time? Most of the time you can only think of
> > > think at a time so when you pratice one of these your mind
> > > should cease. If you find your self losing track of were you
> > > just go back to your practice. When any thoughts come just sayService.
> > > thinking thinking go back to your practice. Try this and get
> > > with me please.
> > > > Thanks Trina.
> > > > Namaste Bob Hart
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