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13143Re: how about this

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  • dabo_now
    Aug 7 7:10 AM
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      --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, medit8ionsociety
      <no_reply@y...> wrote:
      > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "dabo_now"
      > <dscasta@y...> wrote:
      > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "dabo_now"
      > > <dscasta@y...> wrote:
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > meditation is the "health" of your being.
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > comments, anyone?
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > you should know that i have had only one glimpse of what might
      be
      > > > meditation, i am certain i am not in meditation right now, but
      this
      > > > is exactly my point - i feel like a fucking walking disease
      most of
      > > > the time.
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > dabo
      > >
      > >
      > > let me remove the word "being", cause someone may not like it.
      > >
      > >
      > > meditation is the "health" of who you are.
      > >
      > >
      > > dabo
      >
      > Dear Dabo,
      > I am really not sure at all of what you mean by using the term
      > "health" relative to meditation. Classically, meditation is the 7th
      > step in an 8 part process that leads to (here goes more subjective
      > words:-) Enlightenment/Cosmic Comsciousness/Realization.
      > The first 5 steps establish a strong foundation by having you
      practice
      > dispassion by neither running towards things or away from them, and
      > discrimination between the real and the unreal, the finite and the
      > infinite, and in a way, right from wrong. Also practiced and gained
      is
      > self control, by having you master your senses, breath, and
      generally
      > all reactivity. Then you aren't doing the things that are "wrong"
      > (take your peace away/distract you) and you are ready for the 6th
      > step, which is Concentration. You then find, after making all the
      > efforts necessary and appropriate, when you really are Concentrating
      > and your mind is focused and one-pointed, that Meditation (the 7th
      > step) comes to you effortlessly. And ultimately, in the 8th and
      > ultimate part, Contemplation, what is revealed is what has always
      been
      > the case... that (as you put it), "who you are" is
      > Truth/Consciousness/Bliss. And you live happily ever after.
      > Peace and blessings,
      > Bob



      Bob,

      you make realization sound like a step-by-step process. a cause-and-
      effect chain, progress along which is guaranteed by the efforts of
      the practitioner.


      somehow, this does not coincide with my understanding of realization.


      > And you live happily ever after.

      you promise? :)


      dabo
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