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  • jodyrrr
    Mar 4 7:04 PM
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      --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Era" <satkarta7@j...> wrote:
      > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "jodyrrr" <jodyrrr@y...> wrote:
      > > --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Era" <satkarta7@j...> wrote:
      > > > [...]
      > > > > > > You don't need to go anywhere else except right here, right now
      > > > > > > to find yourself. In fact, that is the only place you *can* find
      > > > > > > yourself. All you'll find in the other realms is more of the same
      > > > > > > bullshit you find in this one, only less solid and more illusory.
      > > > > > >
      > > > > > > --jody.
      > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > > > or can be looked at as other realities
      > > > > > of ourselves with an opened mind
      > > > > >
      > > > > > check out
      > > > > >
      > > > > > the Surat Shabd Yoga Meditation site
      > > > > >
      > > > > > <http://santmat-meditation.net/yoga/meditation.html>
      > > > >
      > > > > I find the sound and light paths to be full of theosophical
      > > > > nonsense, and all that you end up with is a tendency to be
      > > > > able to psychotically imagine all sorts of delusional bullshit.
      > > > >
      > > > > The simple truth of your own being stands outside of any
      > > > > kind of sense experience, whether of this world or the next.
      > > > > To the jnani, it is all Maya, no matter where it's supposedly
      > > > > coming from.
      > > > >
      > > > > So, I reject Sant Mat and the other sound and light paths
      > > > > as theosophical nonsense, promoted by those who are only
      > > > > after name and fame in the form of being able to say that
      > > > > they visit heaven on a regular basis. What they are "visiting"
      > > > > is a state of mind projected as delusion by a conditioned
      > > > > tendency to accept the mind's imaginings as some kind of
      > > > > existential fact.
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > I have no idea what you are talking about
      > > >
      > > > I am happy with the Naam meditation
      > > >
      > > > cool of jody
      > >
      > > That's good Karta. Whatever floats your boat.
      > >
      > > However, I'd like to point out that *ANYTHING* that you can
      > > see, hear, or feel is only more Maya. So, if you have some kind
      > > of glorious meditation experience, that's just more of the
      > > delusion of the world coming at you, only in a more subtle
      > > (and therefore more illusory) form.
      >
      >
      > not so jody,
      >
      > at least with me not so
      >
      > I am getting cleaned of delusions
      > in MY meditations
      >
      > take my word for it

      I will take your word for it, Karta.

      But I've got to tell you, I know two individuals who are completely
      convinced that they fly to heaven and hang out there. One is
      a proponent of Sant Mat, the other of Eckankar.

      That's what I call delusion.
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