- Jan 15, 2004Hi Greg...
Forgive me for 'top posting'...
What you say below, is true.
I have that experience while I drive my car.
I am merely 'reindexing' in a map; that is my
experience. There is a certain 'ritual', the
apparent 'movement', which is somehow
inherent to the act of reindexing.
Perhaps someday, we will learn to reindex
without the ritual of movement...
Thanks for sharing this. It is hard to state,
what you have stated.
>Gregory Goode <goode@d...> wrote:and it can help dissolve the grip of belief.
> I've done this with people, and it really works. It goes against the grain of belief,
>"I'm RIGHT HERE." This is the feeling of being localized. Part of this is because of
> People feel limited partly because they feel like they are in the body. They feel like,
muscular contractions, and part is related to beliefs about the physical structure of
the body and the notion of the little humunculus supposedly directing things from
>through and dissolve the assumptions of physical structure notion.
> But there are several ways to experience things differently, and begin to see
>you have a chair with wheels at home, maybe someone can move the chair while you
> You can see this through movement.
> Through movement, you can see that you never move.
> Try this:
> 1. Put your body in a situation where it's moving, but not by your own power. If
are seated. Or ride in a car or train. Sit by the window. A subway car is a bit too
noisy for this. Try to keep the body still and stay physically passive but observant.
>What is it that you really sense? Don't go beyond
> 2. While the body being moved, look at what your sensory evidence is telling you.
> the experience that presents itself thru the senses. This comes prior to theintellectual story that might arise about a physical body and your being trapped
inside. Don't go there. Stick to the evidence at hand, to the experience.
>the spectrum. These things are moving. Are *you* moving? You might hear things.
> 3. In the chair or car, you will see a visual panorama move from side to side across
There might be feelings of rumbling. You can't really say that the sounds or rumbles
are moving. It is only by going beyond your evidence via a story line that you could
conclude that *you* are moving. Sticking with the experience arising in this moment,
does it establish that *you* are really moving? No! Things in the visual field may be
moving, but *you* are just there, present.....
>feelings of localization arise, they won't be "taken delivery of." They lose their
> 4. Try it. Once you see that, then it will be possible to see it
> even if you are walking, even running. You are not moving - other things
> are. But it's easier to see it at first while in a chair or car seat.
> 5. If you don't ever move, then how can you be localized? Only
> things with position can move. Moving means to change position. If you
> really experience that you don't move, then two things will happen. First, if
significance. And after that, these feelings of localization stop arising...
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