12303Re: No Thoughts Are Brilliant
- Dec 18, 2003--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, medit8ionsociety
> Sitting in meditation and witnessing your body, emotions, thoughts,or
> whatever, eventually realization of a moment between the thoughtsDear Bob:
> occurs. When in the thoughts, you are either drawn toward or going
> away from the objects of your thoughts. All the chasing after or
> running away from these things leads to an infinity of discomforting
> mind chatter. The space between your thoughts is where brilliance is
> found. Brilliance as in light, and brilliance as in wisdom. The
> brilliance between thoughts is the experience of the infinite peace
> transcendent of thought. The wise attend to the brilliance and live
> happily ever after.
When I meditate it takes a while to settle in, get the posture, slow
the breath, and notice the present. Then I center on the heart and
the source of the breath, which reminds me again of the 'I am" the
first and last thought, the aham vritti. At this point I believe I
am in the space between the thoughts.
When I first heard the idea about four years ago, I thought I had to
find a fleeting space where no thought was present. I now see a
thought held in place and considered while aware of the "I am" as a
presented idea. Then another presented idea occurs and another and so
on. But each is independent of the others. Like bubbles rising. As
contrasted with the stream of thoughts one leading into another.
So to me, as long as I hold concentration on the heart, on the
breath, or on the I am, my thoughts have spaces between them.
Then comes a choice. I can give up this quiet meditation or I can
give into a seductive thought. The pleasure of thinking about some
things is great. I need to be able to say "I will give up the
pleasure of thinking of this to remain silent". The practice here is
to consider nothing more important than silence. The more often this
occurs the stronger the meditation. No matter what the thought, I
need to be able to give it up.
If I don't, who am I kidding?
PS- I see a thought as the larger arena of "stream of thinking" as
contrasted with the 'presented idea' which is one idea held in the
mind. Thoughts are big and have many facets and one facets leads to
Actually I believe when these ideas were presented hundreds of years
ago, this distinction may have been made in person by the teachers
for students to learn to meditate. It would be awfully hard to write
about it in an impersonal way and be totally clear without some
dialogue and many shared references. Today the general acceptance of
the definition of thoughts and thinking may be different than it was
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