11886Re: Keeping a Spiritual Journal
- Dec 5, 2003--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Swami-G"
Hi Swami-G ~
SG: while one is within duality there is a starting point ....
*****Other than at the moment of death (and thereafter), when is one
not within duality?
not even Sri Ramana was actualized as a child ...... it took an
event........ a point in duality where the mind was transcended
.... the illusion broken ...... until that time one is within
duality and uses whatever is at hand to come to that point where the
duality falls away .....
*****Are you suggesting that post-awakening one is no longer "in"
duality, no longer functioning in duality, that for one who is awake,
duality no longer exists?
this advaita view and perception about there are no levels of
consciousness may only be spoken by one that is beyond the
levels..... beyond the trap of mind and mental comings and
goings......... until that time Yes there appears to be
you can go around in denial of it using advaita speak and that
is what it is simply denial which is not liberating at all.........
*****OK. Denial is not liberating. Then...what is liberating? Is
liberation an understanding that is caused? If so, by what?
there comes a point where the duality dissolves into Advaita but
that is not as yet the norm for the whole of mankind ....... until
that time a journal is advantageous as a mooring to see what
patterns have been occurring thus bringing a point that may be
contemplated and broken through ......
*****Certainly this may be so...for some. Just as meditation may
contribute to the surfacing of the understanding that nothing was
ever needed, that it was the search itself which kept the "game"
going. However, there are no prescriptions which are appropriate for
all. Each apparent entity will be guided to do what it needs to do,
whether that is journaling, meditating, praying, chanting,
psychotherapy ... it's all being taken quite good care of.
this comes by witnessing ....... then by a spontaneous Self Enquiry
or Neti Neti which then takes over to cut the knots of
illusion...... but this arises in a deep spontaneous manner and not
by self as a limitational practice .....
Next there will be the advaita speak of we are already that -----
there is nothing to do ----- there is nowhere to go ......
etc.etc...... that is true for the liberated One but not for those
that are still within the mundane mental cognition and drama.........
*****Actually, it is true for all, although all may not realize it as
such. (Reminds me of the old EST aphorism: "The truth believed is a
for them a journey is still in place which ends in it was always
right here ---- right now ----- ...... it is the great
*****Yes. It is a one-sided coin.
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