11099Re: unnatural stillness
- Oct 6, 2003"Swami Ganga-Puri Kaliuttamananda-Giri" <manjusrilotus@y...> wrote:
>she really ticks me off with ..
> > dear SG
> > I read it
> > but, I unsubed from Sarlo the minute when Devi called you
> enlightened, just protecting my eyes from all the light you two
> were emanating there
> SG: why do you link me with Devi ?
i have no strings with
> either of you .........I am glad, it puzzles me how I am
forced to speak about things I would
rather keep to myself
>dear SG, that is exactly the reason
> > I had and have no quarrel with you,
> > I like and respect the work you do.
> SG: really ? then what is this as written :
> K: > she belongs to the circus of self- proclaimed deluded ones
> together with Judi and you
I unsubed from Sarlo because Devi
irritates me beyond my endurance,
please believe me I would never post
such things, only when I am pushed over
the top, what the deva succeeds to do
on a regular bases; now posting from
her Thuraya samadhi
and Sarlo thinks, that she is charming
oh!!!! somebody help!!!!!
I live in my world, with my value
system, with my understanding of what
enlightenment is and wo is and who is
not, and will not lye about it
> > and the gap between the *understanding" held by Don andyou said it than, not me <grin>
> Ganga is as big as between you and me
> SG: that statement is not showing one ounce of
> respect .......
> if you are going to be Transparent it
> means being honest and Ethical in all respects.......
> if you say you respect me here and then go to Sarlos
> and post this type of inflamitory statement that is called
> being double minded or two faced .......
> Bible Quote : a Double minded man is unstable in all his
> ways.......... if you want to get a firm foundation that is
> unshakable one must use the single eye to see ........
> K> Devi irritates me with her
> > *enlightenment* obsession and
> > I do respond when they call me
> > twofaced!!!!
> SG: so once again WHY are you linking me up with Devi ?
> Why are you projecting what she says onto me and
> suddenly then taking up this banner that if she sees
> value and considers me enlightened then of course
> that proves i am a fraud ?
> K: > I did never endorsed your enlightenment
> > higher than it is
> SG: there is either Enlightenment in which the conditionings
> are blown out and Liberation IS ....... or it isn't ...... there aren't
> degrees of enlightenment ......
> Like pregnancy it either is or is not
...... you can have degrees of
> relative knowledge but not Self Realization........Oh! SG don't ware me down please!
> K; > I am sure you know that there are various debts to that term
> > SO REFRAIN YOURSELF TO CALL ME TWOFACED!
> SG: there are debts when you slander a swami ( a renunciate
> dedicated to God ) ...... but we won't get into that here ...... if you
> are acting in a double minded way ..... if you are doing two
> separate actions between here and and somewhere else then
> that is termed twofaced......... it does not mean necessarily as
> you might be taking it as a treacherous person not to be trusted
> but simply that you are acting in two separate manners here and
> there .........
> > you don't understand me and never did
> > Karta
> SG: what is to understand ? let's try this on for size......
you always did misinterpreted me
ALWAYS! lookig through your heavily
colored glasses which I have nohing
to do with
>keep your pseudo analysis to your self
> you are still searching and at present in a very reactive mode
please, you don't know me what was
proved over and over how you mis
understood me in the past also
and imo your divisions and fixation with
seekers and searchers and masters and
gurus is childish
> ........He is a sikh, that is their attire
> you want to trust but are afraid to open yourself to it .........
> you think that being strong is in building up an ego identity
> (positive affirmation) rather than letting it go and not needing to
> control anything..........
> there is a mistrust of anyone with a label such as guru and it is
> construed as some projection of being better than others ( while
> that is not the case at all) ........
> there is a need to keep secure boundaries in place and seeing
> things in terms of black and white ......
> while Sant Thakar Singh wears white
accept the radical ones; who have
> and has a title thatno, I never said that your title is
> is well and good...... if anyone else does then they are a
a sham, never and I adore your initiation
mystic flame dancing Siva photos
and wish you the best with your journey
> My question is what makes it pure for him and you seeyes, I always knew, that dear SG
> religious clothes or titles as a sham for others ? is it because
> he is indian ?
> if you think that he would come as sit down with you and
> have a one to one conversation, think again ....... and yet you do
> not see him as being ego centric and caught in a Guru image
> ......... while there is this very projection on others.........
> SG: the following words still stand :
> ....... i have no ill will towards you
> as whatever pain you are inliberation ......
> is projecting itself in many directions....... i am not your enemy
> and never have been........
> Infinite Love bears all things ---- it continues to give ------
> Infinite Love has no strings - it cares not to bind but only set
> free that which is bound.........
> i would celebrate your freedom and
peace peace, and please forgive me
for being alive and being myself
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