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11096Re: unnatural stillness

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  • Era
    Oct 6, 2003
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      --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Nina" <murrkis@y...> wrote:
      > > dear Nina my angel,
      > >
      > > I was thinking on your post and than
      > > I couldn't resist anymore to answer
      > > with my 0.02$
      > >
      > > Since imho you are one of the most
      > > enlightened and intelligent person on
      > > this forum, if you wish I can call
      > > you Swami, or Baba or somethin' like
      > > thats gonna change *Realty* lol
      > >
      > > Truth can not be manipulated
      > >
      > > what is IS, Timothy Leary
      > >
      > > spirituality 101
      > >
      > > anyway, the shakti: one's sex drive,
      > > ego, intentions, understanding,
      > > ethical values, Consciousness, Awareness
      > > soul are all in the eyes of everyone
      > >
      > > those for the holy tradition o
      > > transference through Darshan
      > >
      > > if a violent, or a mentally disturbed
      > > creature looks into an innocent child's
      > > eye, the seed of its damage is planted,
      > > a gaze does awoke something
      > >
      > > please take my word for this; entities
      > > the essences of others are highly
      > > contagious, so to speak
      > >
      > > even online, let alone with eye-contact!
      > >
      > > so is the circus created: the action
      > > the *reality* by us humans
      > >
      > > so if you want to sit down in meditation
      > > and ONLY!!! deal with your own 'shit'
      > > and not add others to it: it is best
      > > to stay away from all contacts before meditation
      > >
      > > I know, for someone as pure and
      > > transparent as yourself without any
      > > holy, guru, or any kind of ill ego
      > > this fact never occurred, because you
      > > can share your precious self without
      > > an agenda, but with abundance and with
      > >
      > > Infinite Love always
      > >
      > > you ARE THAT!
      > >
      > >
      > > love, Karta
      >
      > Hello, Karta,
      >
      > Thank you for your concern.
      >
      > You seem to be speaking of empathy, the
      > ability to share what another is experiencing,
      > whatever that may be.
      >
      > It seems, that empathic understanding can be
      > filtered by perception.
      >
      > So, where one may see the innocent child
      > seeded with violence and mental disturbance,
      > another may see the violent and mentally
      > disturbed one seeded with innocence.
      >
      > At any rate, we may struggle to put up
      > barriers to empathy, by removing ourselves
      > from the presence of disturbing people,
      > but the range of the quantum mind is boundless
      > and doesn't discriminate in the ways we might
      > like.
      >
      > I can claim it all as mine: the innocence,
      > violence and mental disturbance. I can also
      > see through it.
      >
      > The story I wrote, on which you have commented,
      > revealed only one aspect of that meditation class.
      > It was the story of what was happening between
      > quiet lengths of infinity, which I didn't mention.
      >
      > I'll leave you with a story I came across
      > last night:
      >
      > (begin excerpt, p. 210, Brain States by Tom Kenyon, M.A.)
      >
      > Belief is a powerful filter of perception
      > whether it be a perception of an individual
      > or of a group. An incident tha occurred on
      > one of Magellan's voyages demonstrates this
      > point in a dramatic manner. As the explorer
      > sailed around the tip of South America, he
      > stopped at a place called Tierra del Fuego,
      > the southernmost point in the Western Hemisphere.
      > Coming ashore he met some local natives who had
      > come out to see the strange visitors. What
      > transpired is hard to imagine, but the ship's
      > historian documented the event.
      >
      > As Magellan came ashore, the natives asked him
      > how he got there. He pointed out the the full-masted
      > sailing ships at anchor off the coast. Incredible
      > as it seems, none of the natives could see the
      > ships that were clearly visible to Magellan and
      > his crew. The natives had never seen anything
      > like sailing ships. They did not expect to see
      > them, and so they did not see them.
      >
      > According to the historian's records, the first
      > person to see the ships was the village shaman
      > or witch doctor. He said that if they looked out
      > to the sea from the corner of their eyes they
      > could see something. Finally, everyone in the
      > tribe could see the ships.
      >
      > Shamans are trained to "see" and work in the
      > inner world of reality. My hunch is that through
      > years of entering trance states and working in
      > his own "inner reality," the shaman's perception
      > was more flexible than the other members of his
      > tribe. Thus, he was able to see Magellan's ships
      > even though they violated the consensus reality
      > of his kinsmen.
      >
      > (end excerpt)
      >
      > Nina




      thank you Nina for being here and being yourself,

      and for your patience with me

      I had to cut out the espressos too,
      what I was gulping down all day, and
      I will be more civil from now on

      I LOVE YOUR STORIES!

      love, Karta
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