11096Re: unnatural stillness
- Oct 6, 2003--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Nina" <murrkis@y...> wrote:
> > dear Nina my angel,thank you Nina for being here and being yourself,
> > I was thinking on your post and than
> > I couldn't resist anymore to answer
> > with my 0.02$
> > Since imho you are one of the most
> > enlightened and intelligent person on
> > this forum, if you wish I can call
> > you Swami, or Baba or somethin' like
> > thats gonna change *Realty* lol
> > Truth can not be manipulated
> > what is IS, Timothy Leary
> > spirituality 101
> > anyway, the shakti: one's sex drive,
> > ego, intentions, understanding,
> > ethical values, Consciousness, Awareness
> > soul are all in the eyes of everyone
> > those for the holy tradition o
> > transference through Darshan
> > if a violent, or a mentally disturbed
> > creature looks into an innocent child's
> > eye, the seed of its damage is planted,
> > a gaze does awoke something
> > please take my word for this; entities
> > the essences of others are highly
> > contagious, so to speak
> > even online, let alone with eye-contact!
> > so is the circus created: the action
> > the *reality* by us humans
> > so if you want to sit down in meditation
> > and ONLY!!! deal with your own 'shit'
> > and not add others to it: it is best
> > to stay away from all contacts before meditation
> > I know, for someone as pure and
> > transparent as yourself without any
> > holy, guru, or any kind of ill ego
> > this fact never occurred, because you
> > can share your precious self without
> > an agenda, but with abundance and with
> > Infinite Love always
> > you ARE THAT!
> > love, Karta
> Hello, Karta,
> Thank you for your concern.
> You seem to be speaking of empathy, the
> ability to share what another is experiencing,
> whatever that may be.
> It seems, that empathic understanding can be
> filtered by perception.
> So, where one may see the innocent child
> seeded with violence and mental disturbance,
> another may see the violent and mentally
> disturbed one seeded with innocence.
> At any rate, we may struggle to put up
> barriers to empathy, by removing ourselves
> from the presence of disturbing people,
> but the range of the quantum mind is boundless
> and doesn't discriminate in the ways we might
> I can claim it all as mine: the innocence,
> violence and mental disturbance. I can also
> see through it.
> The story I wrote, on which you have commented,
> revealed only one aspect of that meditation class.
> It was the story of what was happening between
> quiet lengths of infinity, which I didn't mention.
> I'll leave you with a story I came across
> last night:
> (begin excerpt, p. 210, Brain States by Tom Kenyon, M.A.)
> Belief is a powerful filter of perception
> whether it be a perception of an individual
> or of a group. An incident tha occurred on
> one of Magellan's voyages demonstrates this
> point in a dramatic manner. As the explorer
> sailed around the tip of South America, he
> stopped at a place called Tierra del Fuego,
> the southernmost point in the Western Hemisphere.
> Coming ashore he met some local natives who had
> come out to see the strange visitors. What
> transpired is hard to imagine, but the ship's
> historian documented the event.
> As Magellan came ashore, the natives asked him
> how he got there. He pointed out the the full-masted
> sailing ships at anchor off the coast. Incredible
> as it seems, none of the natives could see the
> ships that were clearly visible to Magellan and
> his crew. The natives had never seen anything
> like sailing ships. They did not expect to see
> them, and so they did not see them.
> According to the historian's records, the first
> person to see the ships was the village shaman
> or witch doctor. He said that if they looked out
> to the sea from the corner of their eyes they
> could see something. Finally, everyone in the
> tribe could see the ships.
> Shamans are trained to "see" and work in the
> inner world of reality. My hunch is that through
> years of entering trance states and working in
> his own "inner reality," the shaman's perception
> was more flexible than the other members of his
> tribe. Thus, he was able to see Magellan's ships
> even though they violated the consensus reality
> of his kinsmen.
> (end excerpt)
and for your patience with me
I had to cut out the espressos too,
what I was gulping down all day, and
I will be more civil from now on
I LOVE YOUR STORIES!
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