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11094Re: unnatural stillness

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  • Onniko
    Oct 6, 2003
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      --- In meditationsocietyofamerica@yahoogroups.com, "Nina"
      <murrkis@y...> wrote:
      > > dear Nina my angel,
      > >
      > > I was thinking on your post and than
      > > I couldn't resist anymore to answer
      > > with my 0.02$
      > >
      > > Since imho you are one of the most
      > > enlightened and intelligent person on
      > > this forum, if you wish I can call
      > > you Swami, or Baba or somethin' like
      > > thats gonna change *Realty* lol
      > >
      > > Truth can not be manipulated
      > >
      > > what is IS, Timothy Leary
      > >
      > > spirituality 101
      > >
      > > anyway, the shakti: one's sex drive,
      > > ego, intentions, understanding,
      > > ethical values, Consciousness, Awareness
      > > soul are all in the eyes of everyone
      > >
      > > those for the holy tradition o
      > > transference through Darshan
      > >
      > > if a violent, or a mentally disturbed
      > > creature looks into an innocent child's
      > > eye, the seed of its damage is planted,
      > > a gaze does awoke something
      > >
      > > please take my word for this; entities
      > > the essences of others are highly
      > > contagious, so to speak
      > >
      > > even online, let alone with eye-contact!
      > >
      > > so is the circus created: the action
      > > the *reality* by us humans
      > >
      > > so if you want to sit down in meditation
      > > and ONLY!!! deal with your own 'shit'
      > > and not add others to it: it is best
      > > to stay away from all contacts before meditation
      > >
      > > I know, for someone as pure and
      > > transparent as yourself without any
      > > holy, guru, or any kind of ill ego
      > > this fact never occurred, because you
      > > can share your precious self without
      > > an agenda, but with abundance and with
      > >
      > > Infinite Love always
      > >
      > > you ARE THAT!
      > >
      > >
      > > love, Karta
      >
      > Hello, Karta,
      >
      > Thank you for your concern.
      >
      > You seem to be speaking of empathy, the
      > ability to share what another is experiencing,
      > whatever that may be.
      >
      > It seems, that empathic understanding can be
      > filtered by perception.
      >
      > So, where one may see the innocent child
      > seeded with violence and mental disturbance,
      > another may see the violent and mentally
      > disturbed one seeded with innocence.
      >
      > At any rate, we may struggle to put up
      > barriers to empathy, by removing ourselves
      > from the presence of disturbing people,
      > but the range of the quantum mind is boundless
      > and doesn't discriminate in the ways we might
      > like.
      >
      > I can claim it all as mine: the innocence,
      > violence and mental disturbance. I can also
      > see through it.
      >
      > The story I wrote, on which you have commented,
      > revealed only one aspect of that meditation class.
      > It was the story of what was happening between
      > quiet lengths of infinity, which I didn't mention.
      >
      > I'll leave you with a story I came across
      > last night:
      >
      > (begin excerpt, p. 210, Brain States by Tom Kenyon, M.A.)
      >
      > Belief is a powerful filter of perception
      > whether it be a perception of an individual
      > or of a group. An incident tha occurred on
      > one of Magellan's voyages demonstrates this
      > point in a dramatic manner. As the explorer
      > sailed around the tip of South America, he
      > stopped at a place called Tierra del Fuego,
      > the southernmost point in the Western Hemisphere.
      > Coming ashore he met some local natives who had
      > come out to see the strange visitors. What
      > transpired is hard to imagine, but the ship's
      > historian documented the event.
      >
      > As Magellan came ashore, the natives asked him
      > how he got there. He pointed out the the full-masted
      > sailing ships at anchor off the coast. Incredible
      > as it seems, none of the natives could see the
      > ships that were clearly visible to Magellan and
      > his crew. The natives had never seen anything
      > like sailing ships. They did not expect to see
      > them, and so they did not see them.
      >
      > According to the historian's records, the first
      > person to see the ships was the village shaman
      > or witch doctor. He said that if they looked out
      > to the sea from the corner of their eyes they
      > could see something. Finally, everyone in the
      > tribe could see the ships.
      >
      > Shamans are trained to "see" and work in the
      > inner world of reality. My hunch is that through
      > years of entering trance states and working in
      > his own "inner reality," the shaman's perception
      > was more flexible than the other members of his
      > tribe. Thus, he was able to see Magellan's ships
      > even though they violated the consensus reality
      > of his kinsmen.
      >
      > (end excerpt)
      >
      > Nina

      That is a great story, Nina. Thanks. Anyone who hasn't done it in
      awhile might walk out in the world, today, and include their corner
      of the eye vision just to see how remarkable the ordinary world is
      before it gets edited by the guy in front.
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