11050Re: organism and identity / for maria luisa
- Oct 1, 2003--- In email@example.com, "Nina"
> > > > > Allow me to point out, that I have never revealed to youit,
> > > > > my personal experiences with consciousness, except
> > > > > indirectly.
> > > >
> > > > so rather than play ring around the mulberry bush why don't
> > > > you simply speak openly of what it is ?
> > >
> > > Well, considering that all we can do is speak indirectly of
> > > how would I reply?sterility
> > SG: perhaps start by directly sharing what it was for
> > you ...... rather than speaking of the by-products
> > which are being filtered as a process of thinking ......
> SG, what would you have me do? There is no dream-sharing
> machine available, as was available to Claire in
> "Until the End of the World". You will have to be
> satisfied with my particular language of expression,
> even if the apparent logic is distasteful to you.
> What a farce it would be for me to express it in any
> other way than what comes naturally. If you were a close
> friend, someone I trusted deeply, I might share more
> of the herstory of specifics, or even be available to
> lead the way into the experience. However, "Nina" (and
> probably many others on these lists) is more private than
> to broadcast such things, and also sees them as "beside
> the point". If you are interested and looking, you can
> find it in what I write.
> > N: > There are all manner of spontaneous expressions of being
> > > filled with "The Holy Spirit". As regards my own expression
> > > of this highly intimate experience, either you see it in
> > > what I share, or you don't. The same could be said of anyone's
> > > contributions on this list.
> > >
> > > Ring around the mulberry bush is what we do here, on these
> > > lists.
> > SG: that could be ended ...... it is a choice.........
> You are correct, I could determine to stop posting on these lists.
> > > You may call my writing 'cold', others might call it 'direct',
> > > yet others might find it to be different, entirely.
> > > You say my writing is based in 'logic'; however, where is my
> > > "logic" coming from, except from "experience"?
> > SG: try bringing it from the Heart rather than the
> > of intellect and intellectual process .........process
> You are mistaken if you think that my intellect/intellectual
> is not arising from the heart. How do you think it is, that mythose
> intellect is inspired?
> The desert southwest in the USA looks sterile and lifeless to
> who are used to life being abundantly visible and green. Vitalityhas
> many expressions.Yes, and all the seemingly conflicting explanations can come
together to be understood as one facet of a whole. Instead of "no,
not like this, like this" it could be said, "yes, and also this if
looked at from a different angle".
> to each her own,
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