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RE: [MedievalSawdust] Elm?

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  • C N Schwartz
    No, Dutch Elm is not eradicated. That s the bad news The good news is, it is not as deadly to the tree as the Chestnut Blight is to the Chestnut tree. There
    Message 1 of 14 , Nov 30, 2007
      No, Dutch Elm is not eradicated.  That's the bad news
      The good news is, it is not as deadly to the tree as the Chestnut Blight is to the Chestnut tree.  There are quite a few elms out there, soldiering on.
      You can still find American Chestnut, but I have never seen a healthy one.  They struggle on to halfway decent size, half rotting the whole time, providing chestnuts to critters.  But no lumber like 100+ years ago.
      Chestnut Blight is like Syphyllis, Dutch Elm is like Herpes.  One is much more severe than the other.
      -----Original Message-----
      From: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com [mailto:medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Beth and Bob Matney
      Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:51 PM
      To: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: RE: [MedievalSawdust] Elm?

      It is not eradicated everywhere. It has decimated the forests on the
      island of Birka (Sweden) over the last few years. (been there... seen
      it). Chinese elm is essentially immune and there are now highly
      resistant hybrids in the trade. This is what is normally planted in
      the USA today.

      Plenty of ignorant and scam artists in the tree business as in everything else.


      At 12:38 PM 11/29/2007, you wrote:
      >In reality, Dutch Elm disease is nearly irradiated. The problem with
      >finding elm is the fact that everyone has gotten used to the idea
      >that if it's an elm then it's diseased, so many healthy trees have
      >been felled, making elms of any size scarce. In 1970 a tornado blew
      >through Oklahoma City, blowing down and damaging many trees - my
      >residential street had been covered with an arbor-like overhang.
      >When the tree services came through they convinced most of the
      >neighbors to have the surviving trees felled because they were elms
      >and "it is just a matter of time before they succumb". Even now
      >there is nothing like the shade we had back then, and all because
      >the tree guys saw a quick, easy way to make some extra money 37
      >years ago. Even today I see the same scam - a healthy tree is
      >removed because the owners are told it is an elm (and we wonder why
      >the world suffers from deforestation. ..). It has been years since I
      >have actually seen an elm that was suffering from Dutch Elm disease,
      >yet the genocide continues.
      >In Magical Service,
      >-----Original Message-----
      >From: medievalsawdust@ yahoogroups. com
      >[mailto:medievalsawdust@ yahoogroups. com]On Behalf Of Rebekah d'Avignon
      >Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 6:16 AM
      >To: medievalsawdust@ yahoogroups. com
      >Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Elm?
      >Depends on what you are making. It is not likely to sand or scrape
      >smooth and forget about finding any "nice, straight grain". Elm is
      >known for its strength because the grain intertwines (hence the
      >problem getting it smooth). I understand that it makes great leaf
      >springs on wagons, though. Due to Dutch Elm Disease it is rare for a
      >tree to live very long.

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