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    I have used wax for all of my leather armour, so here are a few of my comments: 1) water makes it brittle and ruins good leather, it s really hard to get the
    Message 1 of 1 , Feb 13, 2006
      I have used wax for all of my leather armour, so here are a few of my comments:
      1) water makes it brittle and ruins good leather, it's really hard to get the timing perfect. And everyone I know who has armour done this way has currled edges.
      2) I've tried 100% beeswax, 100% parrafin and variations inbetween, the more parafin the harder the leather, but too much parrafin and it forms a coatting on the outside of the leather and too much beeswax and you have a better looking piece but hot days makes it soft.
      3) Personally I prefer 60% parrafin to 40% beeswax, that's what my current armour is done with.
      4) I've fought at clinton.... yes after a full day it is a little soft and pliable, which makes getting it off easier but some people don't like that.
      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 6:17 AM
      Subject: RE: [MedievalSawdust] Digest Number 948

      This is in regards to the "hell freezing over" statement about finding that book, as well as another open ended question.


      The following is an actual question given on a university of Washington
      chemistry mid-term exam. The answer by one student was "so profound that
      the professor shared it with colleagues, via the Internet, which is, of
      course, why we now have the pleasure of enjoying It as well.

      Bonus Question: Is Hell exothermic (gives off heat) or endothermic(absorbs

      Most of the students wrote proofs of their beliefs using Boyle's Law,(gas
      cools off when it expands and heats up when it is compressed)or some

      One student, however, wrote the following:
      First, we need to know how the mass of Hell is changing in time. So we need
      to know the rate that souls are moving into Hell and the rate they are
      leaving. I think that we can safely assume that once a soul gets to Hell, it
      will not leave. Therefore, no souls are leaving. As for how many souls are
      entering Hell, let's look at the different religions that exist in the world
      today. Some of these religions state that if you are not a member of their
      religion, you will go to Hell. Since there are more than one of these
      religions and since people do not belong to more than one religion, we can
      project that all souls go to Hell. With birth and death rates as they are,
      we can expect the number of souls in Hell to increase exponentially. Now, we
      look at the rate of change of the volume in Hell because Boyle's law states
      that in order for the temperature and pressure in Hell to stay the same, the
      volume of Hell has to expand proportionately as souls are added. This gives
      1. If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls
      enter Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will increase until
      all Hell breaks loose.
      2. If Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in
      Hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes over.
      So which is it?
      If we accept the postulate given to me by Terresa
      Morrison, during my freshman year,"...that it will be a cold day in Hell
      before I sleep with you," and take into account the fact that I still have
      not succeeded in having sexual relations with her, then #2 cannot be true,
      And thus I am sure that Hell is exothermic and will not freeze. The student
      received the only "A" given

      And now, my personal question.

      I know this is generally regarding woodworking, but I had a question about leather working as well. I'm in the process of making my own leather armour, but before I start, I want to make sure I have the process correct.

      Cut, holes (if required for whatever reason), dye (which I'm wanting to do), boiling.

      Now.. as a secondary question to that... I've read in several sources that I can either boil in water, or wax. Water will shrink it somewhat, but will make it harder. In the end, it'll be a stronger end product (provided I don't overboil it, and turn it brittle) if I use water, but wax seems to be a preference, as it adds life to the leather, and doesn't shrink it as bad. But, the problem with wax I've read is that in extreme heat, it tends to lose it's shape, and resort to a flat wax covered piece of leather. Up here in BC, Canada, our summers tend to get pretty warm, and one of the wars I attend (Clinton War), it's not uncommon to get into the 40 Celcius range for temperatures (That's in around 100F for you Americans who don't feel like converting :D ).

      Now.. I'm curious.. what if I were to boil in water, then in wax. Would that have any added effect, better/worse, or just wasting my time by doing both? Any experienced leatherworkers out here that know for sure?

      Mizak Perado

      ***** I had something important to say, then I opened my mouth -Groucho Marx

      >Topics in this digest:
      > 3. Re: Re: wonderful technical resource Book
      > From: ddordway@...
      >Message: 3
      > Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 17:18:56 EST
      > From: ddordway@...
      >Subject: Re: Re: wonderful technical resource Book
      >Checked out my local library today in search of this book after pricing it on
      >Amazon for $100.00. The library doesn't have it. When I inquired as to the
      >availability of a possible loan from another library, the person who looked it
      >up for me was quite surprised to find out that there are only two libraries
      >on the planet that carry it and both are in the U.K. At this point we shared a
      >joke about the availability of a possible loan. I believe it had something
      >to do with hell freezing over.
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