Re: [MedievalSawdust] Re: Pavilion Poles & Timber-framing Scarf Joints
- Ahh, yes, that's it. The Gamble house. It was an episode where Norm
visited the Gamble house and saw the joint there. Then he in a later
episode made gazebo/type thing, using that joint to hook long cross
Thanks, that had been bugging me.
On 7/12/05, ewdysar <ewdysar@...> wrote:
> I believe that I have seen examples of the "Norm" joint in the
> Gamble House in Pasadena, a historical Greene and Greene Craftsman
> mansion. The house also contains examples of the scarf joints
> shown. The Norm joint was used in various spots in the interior,
> with exotic woods and master quality detail. The scarf joints were
> in the roof structure along with other timber frame joints, more
> structural than show.
> Eric, aka Eirikr
> --- In email@example.com, Siegfried
> <SiegfriedFaust@g...> wrote:
> > Ok, so last year my ridge pole busted at Pennsic, and I managed to
> > screw & glue it together to allow it to work ...
> > In particular, I was impressed a while back while watching This Old
> > House reruns, at watching Norm make a 'Interlocking Scarf Joint'
> > something similarly called). In that it was a joint that
> > easily, and just 'held itself together'. No bolts, no nothing.
> > Really dern impressive and guaranteed to impress people, who
> > at it think that there is no way it will hold together, but it
> > Ok, here is my question though. I've done some research, and
> > 'real details' are hard to find, I'm debating between 2 different
> > joints. And I'd like some advice.
> > The first is the 'Norm' joint ... pardon the bad ASCII art (go
> > this in a monospace font), but it looks like this:
> > ___________________________________
> > /
> > ------------
> > _______________________/___________
> > In this join, the  areas hold wood blocks, that are meant to
> > in easily. No need to be 'tight'. Once all 3 are in, any attempt
> > movement by the joint binds them all up.
> > Second is a Splayed Hooked Wedged Scarf Joint, that I found via
> > searching online at Timber Framing sites ... A decent picture of
> > can be seen here sans it's wedges:
> > http://www.trilliumdell.com/vocabulary/img/scarf_joint.jpg
> > Also here is bad ASCII art as well:
> > _____________________________________
> > __\
> > __..--''
> > __..--''
> > __..--''
> > _____\_______________________________
> > Here, the single hole  (it's supposed to be tipped ... check that
> > image I sent) ... instead is meant to take 2 wedges to be driven
> > against each other, to push the joint tight and keep it tight.
> > So, now, the questions:
> > A) Any reason any of you can see to do one, versus the other?
> > the fact that the bottom one seems to be quite common in timber
> > framing, whereas I can't see any references to the Norm joint
> > ... except the show where he made it in an arbor, and the show
> > he 'discovered it', used in building a house.
> > B) Followup....
> > Thanks,
> > Sorry for the long email,
> > Siegfried
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