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Re: [MedievalSawdust] Re: Pavilion Poles & Timber-framing Scarf Joints

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  • Siegfried
    Ahh, yes, that s it. The Gamble house. It was an episode where Norm visited the Gamble house and saw the joint there. Then he in a later episode made
    Message 1 of 18 , Jul 13, 2005
      Ahh, yes, that's it. The Gamble house. It was an episode where Norm
      visited the Gamble house and saw the joint there. Then he in a later
      episode made gazebo/type thing, using that joint to hook long cross
      pieces together.

      Thanks, that had been bugging me.

      Siegfried


      On 7/12/05, ewdysar <ewdysar@...> wrote:
      > I believe that I have seen examples of the "Norm" joint in the
      > Gamble House in Pasadena, a historical Greene and Greene Craftsman
      > mansion. The house also contains examples of the scarf joints
      > shown. The Norm joint was used in various spots in the interior,
      > with exotic woods and master quality detail. The scarf joints were
      > in the roof structure along with other timber frame joints, more
      > structural than show.
      >
      > Eric, aka Eirikr
      >
      > --- In medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com, Siegfried
      > <SiegfriedFaust@g...> wrote:
      > > Ok, so last year my ridge pole busted at Pennsic, and I managed to
      > > screw & glue it together to allow it to work ...
      > > In particular, I was impressed a while back while watching This Old
      > > House reruns, at watching Norm make a 'Interlocking Scarf Joint'
      > (or
      > > something similarly called). In that it was a joint that
      > disassembled
      > > easily, and just 'held itself together'. No bolts, no nothing.
      > > Really dern impressive and guaranteed to impress people, who
      > looking
      > > at it think that there is no way it will hold together, but it
      > does.
      > >
      > > Ok, here is my question though. I've done some research, and
      > while
      > > 'real details' are hard to find, I'm debating between 2 different
      > > joints. And I'd like some advice.
      > >
      > > The first is the 'Norm' joint ... pardon the bad ASCII art (go
      > render
      > > this in a monospace font), but it looks like this:
      > > ___________________________________
      > > /
      > > ---[]---[]---[]---
      > > _______________________/___________
      > >
      > > In this join, the [] areas hold wood blocks, that are meant to
      > slide
      > > in easily. No need to be 'tight'. Once all 3 are in, any attempt
      > at
      > > movement by the joint binds them all up.
      > >
      > > Second is a Splayed Hooked Wedged Scarf Joint, that I found via
      > > searching online at Timber Framing sites ... A decent picture of
      > this
      > > can be seen here sans it's wedges:
      > > http://www.trilliumdell.com/vocabulary/img/scarf_joint.jpg
      > >
      > > Also here is bad ASCII art as well:
      > > _____________________________________
      > > __\
      > > __..--''
      > > __..-[]-''
      > > __..--''
      > > _____\_______________________________
      > >
      > > Here, the single hole [] (it's supposed to be tipped ... check that
      > > image I sent) ... instead is meant to take 2 wedges to be driven
      > > against each other, to push the joint tight and keep it tight.
      > >
      > > So, now, the questions:
      > >
      > > A) Any reason any of you can see to do one, versus the other?
      > Besides
      > > the fact that the bottom one seems to be quite common in timber
      > > framing, whereas I can't see any references to the Norm joint
      > anywhere
      > > ... except the show where he made it in an arbor, and the show
      > where
      > > he 'discovered it', used in building a house.
      > >
      > > B) Followup....
      > > Thanks,
      > > Sorry for the long email,
      > > Siegfried
      > >
      >
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