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  • Conal O'hAirt Jim Hart
    Yes , it s a bit off topic I m not trying to start an argument, but the comment on clothing going straight to the paper makers didn t sit with what I have
    Message 1 of 1 , May 24 10:32 AM
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      Yes , it's a bit off topic

      I'm not trying to start an argument, but the
      comment on clothing going straight to the paper
      makers didn't sit with what I have gotten from
      other SCA 'experts' so I asked....

      I'd be interested in more info for your position
      just as a educational experience...



      > OK, here's my 2 cents...
      >
      >
      > I find the comment "all their clothes and excess
      > fabrics go straight to the paper maker" rather
      > interesting. Everything that I have read regarding
      > how clothing was discarded leads me to the opinion
      > that one of several things happened to clothing
      > after it's original owner was finished with the
      > garment or it became no longer useful. 1) If the
      > owner died, many of the items where bequeathed to
      > other people - depending on the garment possibly
      > lesser family members, loyal servants, etc. 2) Many
      > garments were �re-worked� to change their appearance
      > so they appeared to be newer garments. After a
      > garments color faded, re-dying the garment a
      > different color, adding or removing decoration. 3)
      > Throughout history the second hand clothing trade
      > has always been very brisk. A wealthier person in
      > need of ready cash could take some garments to a
      > second hand clothing shop to sell. I would image
      > that many of the servants that received clothing in
      > wills or in lieu of other payment sold the
      > clothing. I freely admit I haven�t done extensive
      > research on this subject. It just seems to me it
      > would be more practical to resell the garment of a
      > wealthy person as is than selling it to the rag man
      > to be made into paper. Eventually it ends up in the
      > rag bin but it would have the potential for many
      > more uses before being discarded.
      >




      >
      > My next example is one of wealth bias. I search for
      > evidence of tertiary use of fabrics after they have
      > past their original intentional use. Rich people who
      > write and did most of the documention have made it
      > clear that all their clothes and excess fabrics go
      > straight to the paper maker. It doesn't take a moron
      > to figure out poor (illiterate) people use it until
      > it
      > dies THEN they sell it to the paper maker. They make
      > blankets, rugs, dolls or potholders out of their
      > clothes after they have outlived their usefullness.
      > The only evidence revealed to me to date has been
      > extant evidence of people using it to fill gaps in
      > viking ships. Emergency use. A kingdom level
      > ministress of arts provided me with this evidence
      > and
      > the statment that this was ALL that was done with
      > worn
      > out fabric.... there was no documentation so it
      > OBVIOUSLY was not done in period.
      >
      >
      >
      > Baron Conal O'hAirt / Jim Hart
      >
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      Baron Conal O'hAirt / Jim Hart

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