Re: RE: [MedievalSawdust] Re: Request to join medievalsawdust approved
- One of the artisans who will be demonstrating and teaching
on Artisan's Row during the woodworking exhibit is a cooper
with many years of experience both in the SCA and outside
making barrels. Oddly enough, no furniture maker has
committed definitely to being there, although a few have
tentatively expressed interest.
I don't understand the comments about judging - if they are
refering to Artisan's Row at Pennsic, there is a basic
misunderstanding of what goes on there. The point of
artisan's row at Pennsic is to have a day-long exhibit and
demonstration of a craft where various artisans can come and
demo their art for the public, hopefully letting the
populace see just how much fun the craft can be. It's a
chance to get together with others who do the same art, swap
techniques and stories, and show off. No one is expected to
be there the whole day - stop by and play for as long as you
have the time.
Woodworking is scheduled for Wednesday of War week, so the
only war-point activity it conflicts with is the Archery
----- Original Message Follows -----
From: Jeffrey Johnson <jljonsn@...>
Subject: Re: RE: [MedievalSawdust] Re: Request to join
Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 20:09:43 -0400
> This would apply to most areas - sexay objects get
> attention, even if historically inappropriate, wrong
> materials, wrong technique, and the item would never have
> existed in the time period portrayed.
> For judging, it depends on who's doing the judging.
> Problems arise when the judging panels are drawn from
> people who aren't well versed in the area, so you get that
> aattention paid to the gaudy and shoddy over well-built
> and appropriate. Not a big pool to draw from for
> woodworking, I could count those I would consider adequate
> judges in Atlantia on one hand, and its hit-n-miss to get
> them to attend and judge.
> On May 1, 2011 6:14 PM, "D. Young"
> <furnaceplans@...> wrote: >
> > As a thought for mulling over...
> > One of the problems I have noticed with the laurelite
> approach and with merchant juries is that they often do
> not account for every day objects but rather the
> wow-factor for swanky things. >
> > Archeology and extant items tell us that a great many
> period things were in fact pretty ordinary, maybe even
> bland or boring. Armour and clothing, by far the most
> celebrated things in the sca are often viewed as "puting
> your best foot forward items" where as many utilitarian
> objects that have no real wow-value and might even be
> fairly rough tend to be less appealing than just
> furniture. A well made butter churn, made with period
> tools and lathe hoops aint pretty but it works. A
> simple laundry battle is hardly that much of a big deal,
> but it helped a lot. A basic cutting board or wooden
> handled tool might not seem like a big deal but they often
> represent a lot of time learning the craft using period
> tools and period woods. >
> > I might propose, for the sake of period woodworking that
> furniture be only one category of woodenwares....and that
> there be some openness for the more mundane and boring of
> items that by far, had more utilitarian and practical
> every day uses than a gorgeous chest or Glastonbury chair.
> > > Barrels.....lord have mercy....just coopering with
> period tools/techniques is a hell of a craft to master.
> Ive dont just enough to realize how easy it is to screw up
> without modern tools. >
> > And while a barrel does not usually draw the crowds
> attention like a fine gothic chest, a barrel is such a
> fundamental part of the basic economy that such things
> should not be forgotten or overlooked. >
> > cheers
> > Drew
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> > From: pennsicartisans@...
> > Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 21:04:41 -0400
> > Subject: [MedievalSawdust] Re: Request to join
> medievalsawdust approved >
> > Greetings unto the Members of the Medieval Sawdust Group
> , >
> > I am Fiadnata ó Gleann Àlainn, the coordinator for
> Artisans Row at Pennsic 40. I have had Woodworking
> proposed as a possible day on Artisans Row, so I am now in
> search of other woodworkers to help fill the tent for a
> full day. >
> > If anyone is interested in participating, please e-mail
> me off-list at pennsic artisans @ gmail. com (take out all
> spaces), and I will put you in touch with the organizer of
> the Day. >
> > Thank you for any help you may be able to provide.
> Please excuse this intrusion into the discussions on your
> list -- they all look interesting! (You need to see my
> Warp-Weighted Loom to understand how much I appreciate
> playing with wood!) >
> > --
> > In Service,
> > Fiadnata ó Gleann Àlainn
> > Dean of the School of Applied Arts (Artisans Row)
> > Pennsic University
> Don't know where you live, but around here the laurelite approach isWhen I got mine, right after I swore fealty, the Queen said, "I really
> toward well
> made everyday objects. We are much more interested in that cool spring
> lathe and the well stitched seam than ooogles of googas.
> For instance, we currently have two people on vigil to be elevated to the
> of the Laurel later this month. One's main skills are making woodworking
> tools(well) and then using them(also well). And the other is for Norse
> stuff. She researched pigments used for dying sails, made sieves of hair,
> other such things.
like your tent stakes."
So, yes, daily life objects can be appreciated too. Having the royal
pavilion stay up on a stormy night helps.
- --- On Mon, 2/5/11, Jeffrey Johnson <jljonsn@...> wrote:
> This would apply to most areas - sexay objects get attention [...]Indeed. This is why I don't usually bother entering competitions. The last time I did, I received a judging slip that literally consisted of two words: "Too plain."
Maybe there were people who enjoyed my simple, made entirely with hand tools chest. If so, they remained silent.
I haven't bothered entering a competition since.