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  • klausvmainz
    Hi Miriam, The seat is supported in the front by the linenfold frame which acts like a stretcher, and at the back by a ledger permanently attached to the
    Message 1 of 11 , Sep 7, 2010
      Hi Miriam,
      The seat is supported in the front by the linenfold frame which acts like a stretcher, and at the back by a ledger permanently attached to the bottom rail of the back frame (the top of the bottom rail is at the same height as the seat).

      The front stretcher attachment was my one joinery cheat. I used steel bed rails for the attachment to keep assembly as simple as possible and to avoid having tusk tenons poking out the sides.

      The seat is prevented from sliding off of those two bearing points by notches cut into the corners of the seat frame which fit around the front and back legs locking it in position.

      The only patterns I have are the bid drawings here:
      http://www.flickr.com/photos/herr_klaus/3547124359/in/set-72157618505240584/

      There are a couple details there that MIGHT clear things up..

      Thanks!
      -K

      --- In medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com, Laura Iseman <laurai@...> wrote:
      >
      > Gosh! those are fantastic!
      >
      > I am curious, what holds up the seat? In other break-down chairs of this
      > shape I have seen there are tenons with wedges on the sides. You seem to
      > have overcome this problem and I would love to know how. Do you have a
      > pattern for the basic shape construction?
      >
      > Awed,
      > Miriam
      >
      > On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 10:53 AM, klausvmainz <adamjh@...> wrote:
      >
      > >
      > >
      > > Hello,
      > >
      > > I don't post very often, but I finished this project a couple of months ago
      > > and thought some of you might find it of interest:
      > >
      > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/herr_klaus/
      > >
      > > The project was a pair of thrones for the Principality of Cynagua in the
      > > West Kingdom made out of quarter-sawn white oak. The design was based on
      > > 15th century thrones of state with a mix of gothic tracery and linenfold
      > > design motifs. The Principality shields were carved separately and glued
      > > into place. The intent was to create a pair of thrones that could hopefully
      > > compliment the West kingdom thrones design-wise when placed next to them.
      > >
      > > Each throne breaks down into 5 parts and 4 wedges. Overall height is 54"
      > > IIRC.
      > >
      > > Thanks,
      > > Klaus
      > >
      > >
      > >
      >
      >
      >
      > --
      > Agite primo recte! Nihil igitur durat tamquam enodatia brevis at satis.
      > (Do it right the first time, because nothing is so permanent as a temporary
      > solution that works)
      >
    • Laura Iseman
      ... used for beds? Hook bit on one part and holes on the other? Clever. Thanks for that, Miriam -- Agite primo recte! Nihil igitur durat tamquam enodatia
      Message 2 of 11 , Sep 7, 2010
        On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 1:20 PM, klausvmainz <adamjh@...> wrote:
         

        Hi Miriam,
        The seat is supported in the front by the linenfold frame which acts like a stretcher, and at the back by a ledger permanently attached to the bottom rail of the back frame (the top of the bottom rail is at the same height as the seat).

        OK, that bit makes sense

        The front stretcher attachment was my one joinery cheat. I used steel bed rails for the attachment to keep assembly as simple as possible and to avoid having tusk tenons poking out the sides.

        That was the bit that got me 8-> Steel bed rails as in the corner joints used for beds? Hook bit on one part and holes on the other? Clever.

        Thanks for that,

        Miriam

         
        --
        Agite primo recte! Nihil igitur durat tamquam enodatia brevis at satis.
        (Do it right the first time, because nothing is so permanent as a temporary solution that works)

      • klausvmainz
        Yep. Those are the ones. Male portion on the ends of the linenfold frames and the female portion on the legs.. -K
        Message 3 of 11 , Sep 7, 2010
          Yep. Those are the ones. Male portion on the ends of the linenfold frames and the female portion on the legs..

          -K


          > > That was the bit that got me 8-> Steel bed rails as in the corner joints
          > used for beds? Hook bit on one part and holes on the other? Clever.
          >
          > Thanks for that,
        • klausvmainz
          Thanks Jeff, From what I ve heard, they were very well received. Unfortunately I wasn t able to deliver them myself to see them off.. take care, -Klaus
          Message 4 of 11 , Sep 7, 2010
            Thanks Jeff,

            From what I've heard, they were very well received. Unfortunately I wasn't able to deliver them myself to see them off..

            take care,
            -Klaus


            --- In medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com, Jeffrey Johnson <jljonsn@...> wrote:
            >
            > Holy. Crap.
            >
            > Speechless. This is the nicest piece of work I've seen done for any SCA
            > application. If the muckety's in the principality don't appreciate it, to
            > the core of their beings, I vow to hurt them.
            >
            > Jeff/Geoff.
            >
            > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 8:53 PM, klausvmainz <adamjh@...> wrote:
            >
            > >
            > >
            > > Hello,
            > >
            > > I don't post very often, but I finished this project a couple of months ago
            > > and thought some of you might find it of interest:
            > >
            > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/herr_klaus/
            > >
            > > The project was a pair of thrones for the Principality of Cynagua in the
            > > West Kingdom made out of quarter-sawn white oak. The design was based on
            > > 15th century thrones of state with a mix of gothic tracery and linenfold
            > > design motifs. The Principality shields were carved separately and glued
            > > into place. The intent was to create a pair of thrones that could hopefully
            > > compliment the West kingdom thrones design-wise when placed next to them.
            > >
            > > Each throne breaks down into 5 parts and 4 wedges. Overall height is 54"
            > > IIRC.
            > >
            > > Thanks,
            > > Klaus
            > >
            > >
            > >
            >
          • B Gr
            that is absolutely Lovely.  makes me wish i could have just one chair like that. johannette ... From: klausvmainz Subject:
            Message 5 of 11 , Sep 8, 2010
              that is absolutely Lovely.  makes me wish i could have just one chair like that.
              johannette

              --- On Tue, 9/7/10, klausvmainz <adamjh@...> wrote:

              From: klausvmainz <adamjh@...>
              Subject: [MedievalSawdust] Cynagua Thrones
              To: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com
              Date: Tuesday, September 7, 2010, 7:53 PM

               

              Hello,

              I don't post very often, but I finished this project a couple of months ago and thought some of you might find it of interest:

              http://www.flickr.com/photos/herr_klaus/

              The project was a pair of thrones for the Principality of Cynagua in the West Kingdom made out of quarter-sawn white oak. The design was based on 15th century thrones of state with a mix of gothic tracery and linenfold design motifs. The Principality shields were carved separately and glued into place. The intent was to create a pair of thrones that could hopefully compliment the West kingdom thrones design-wise when placed next to them.

              Each throne breaks down into 5 parts and 4 wedges. Overall height is 54" IIRC.

              Thanks,
              Klaus


            • Conal O'hAirt Jim Hart
              very impressive Baron Conal O hAirt / Jim Hart Aude Aliquid Dignum Dare Something Worthy
              Message 6 of 11 , Sep 8, 2010
                very impressive
                 
                Baron Conal O'hAirt / Jim Hart

                Aude Aliquid Dignum
                ' Dare Something Worthy '



              • Jim Looper
                Wow... Just: Wow... Sincerely, Lucien I do not count as a credible source. ... From: klausvmainz Subject: [MedievalSawdust] Cynagua
                Message 7 of 11 , Sep 8, 2010

                  Wow... Just: Wow...

                   

                  Sincerely,

                   

                  Lucien

                  I do not count as a credible source.



                  --- On Tue, 9/7/10, klausvmainz <adamjh@...> wrote:

                  From: klausvmainz <adamjh@...>
                  Subject: [MedievalSawdust] Cynagua Thrones
                  To: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com
                  Date: Tuesday, September 7, 2010, 7:53 PM

                   

                  Hello,

                  I don't post very often, but I finished this project a couple of months ago and thought some of you might find it of interest:

                  http://www.flickr.com/photos/herr_klaus/

                  The project was a pair of thrones for the Principality of Cynagua in the West Kingdom made out of quarter-sawn white oak. The design was based on 15th century thrones of state with a mix of gothic tracery and linenfold design motifs. The Principality shields were carved separately and glued into place. The intent was to create a pair of thrones that could hopefully compliment the West kingdom thrones design-wise when placed next to them.

                  Each throne breaks down into 5 parts and 4 wedges. Overall height is 54" IIRC.

                  Thanks,
                  Klaus

                • Eric
                  Wow, Klaus. Your work continues to impress. You are an inspiration to local, and now global, artisans. In Service to the Dream, Eirikr Mjoksiglandi Ashgrove,
                  Message 8 of 11 , Sep 8, 2010
                    Wow, Klaus.

                    Your work continues to impress. You are an inspiration to local, and now global, artisans.

                    In Service to the Dream,
                    Eirikr Mjoksiglandi
                    Ashgrove, Barony of Altavia, Caid

                    --- In medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com, "klausvmainz" <adamjh@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > Hello,
                    >
                    > I don't post very often, but I finished this project a couple of months ago and thought some of you might find it of interest:
                    >
                    > http://www.flickr.com/photos/herr_klaus/
                    >
                    > The project was a pair of thrones for the Principality of Cynagua in the West Kingdom made out of quarter-sawn white oak. The design was based on 15th century thrones of state with a mix of gothic tracery and linenfold design motifs. The Principality shields were carved separately and glued into place. The intent was to create a pair of thrones that could hopefully compliment the West kingdom thrones design-wise when placed next to them.
                    >
                    > Each throne breaks down into 5 parts and 4 wedges. Overall height is 54" IIRC.
                    >
                    > Thanks,
                    > Klaus
                    >
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