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  • Chuck Belitz
    Has anyone developed a workable formula for Greek Fire to be launched from your siege engines? Sir Karl von Belitz
    Message 1 of 12 , Aug 3, 2010
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      Has anyone developed a workable
      formula for Greek Fire to be launched
      from your siege engines?
      Sir Karl von Belitz

       
    • nelsonhaynes@aol.com
      From what I have heard, the formula for Greek fire has been lost for all time. It s a shame. Master Nigel
      Message 2 of 12 , Aug 3, 2010
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        From what I have heard, the formula for Greek fire has been lost for all time. It's a shame.
         
        Master Nigel
      • leaking pen
        I thought there was pretty conclusive evidence that it was distilled naptha and limestone dust?
        Message 3 of 12 , Aug 3, 2010
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          I thought there was pretty conclusive evidence that it was distilled naptha and limestone dust?

          On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:34 PM, <nelsonhaynes@...> wrote:
           

          From what I have heard, the formula for Greek fire has been lost for all time. It's a shame.
           
          Master Nigel

        • AqA WyrdWynd
          im more worried about who pissed this gentlelord off,..... greek fire..???.. from a seige machine ...???....me thinks we need to invest in a  Ye Ode Bucket
          Message 4 of 12 , Aug 3, 2010
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            im more worried about who pissed this gentlelord off,..... greek fire..???.. from a seige machine ...???....me thinks we need to invest in a  " Ye Ode Bucket Brigade"....


            now ive done mine own rendition < not original but combustably fun...in a quarry mind you though >...with shaved several bars of lux soap, blend of alcohol and lamp oil and kerosene< ive used cigarette lighter fluid too> cant rember the formula...gotta look it up in my Henley's

            have at ye with a flock of flaming yodeling hamsters !!!



            --- On Tue, 8/3/10, nelsonhaynes@... <nelsonhaynes@...> wrote:

            From: nelsonhaynes@... <nelsonhaynes@...>
            Subject: [MedievalSawdust] Greek Fire
            To: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com
            Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 3:34 PM



            From what I have heard, the formula for Greek fire has been lost for all time. It's a shame.
             
            Master Nigel



          • Trevor Payne
            I believe Greek fire become MORE combustable with the addition of water didn t it? bucket brigade?  No I don t think so. Aiden Those who beat their swords
            Message 5 of 12 , Aug 3, 2010
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              I believe Greek fire become MORE combustable with the addition of water didn't it?

              bucket brigade?  No I don't think so.

              Aiden


              "Those who beat their swords into plowshares plow for those who didn't"
              --Benjamin Franklin--

              --- On Tue, 8/3/10, AqA WyrdWynd <wyrdwynd@...> wrote:

              From: AqA WyrdWynd <wyrdwynd@...>
              Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Greek Fire
              To: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com
              Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 2:51 PM

               

              im more worried about who pissed this gentlelord off,..... greek fire..???.. from a seige machine ...???....me thinks we need to invest in a  " Ye Ode Bucket Brigade"....



            • Colleen Vince
              Its some sort of chemical fire.... water will just spread the fire. Better to try to smother the fire with sand. ... -- Mary Ostler Apprentice to Mistress
              Message 6 of 12 , Aug 3, 2010
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                Its some sort of chemical fire.... water will just spread the fire. Better to try to smother the fire with sand.



                On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Trevor Payne <littleaiden@...> wrote:
                 

                I believe Greek fire become MORE combustable with the addition of water didn't it?

                bucket brigade?  No I don't think so.

                Aiden


                "Those who beat their swords into plowshares plow for those who didn't"
                --Benjamin Franklin--

                --- On Tue, 8/3/10, AqA WyrdWynd <wyrdwynd@...> wrote:

                From: AqA WyrdWynd <wyrdwynd@...>
                Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Greek Fire
                To: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com
                Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 2:51 PM


                 

                im more worried about who pissed this gentlelord off,..... greek fire..???.. from a seige machine ...???....me thinks we need to invest in a  " Ye Ode Bucket Brigade"....






                --
                Mary Ostler    
                Apprentice to Mistress Agnes Cresewyke
                Lions Gate Game Marshal
                www.maryostler.com
              • froggie_910@att.blackberry.net
                Ooo. Glass!! ... From: Colleen Vince Sender: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 12:59:52 To:
                Message 7 of 12 , Aug 3, 2010
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                  Ooo. Glass!!
                  From: Colleen Vince <42vince@...>
                  Sender: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com
                  Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 12:59:52 -0700
                  To: <medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com>
                  ReplyTo: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com
                  Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Greek Fire

                   

                  Its some sort of chemical fire.... water will just spread the fire. Better to try to smother the fire with sand.




                  On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Trevor Payne <littleaiden@ yahoo.com> wrote:
                   

                  I believe Greek fire become MORE combustable with the addition of water didn't it?

                  bucket brigade?  No I don't think so.

                  Aiden


                  "Those who beat their swords into plowshares plow for those who didn't"
                  --Benjamin Franklin--

                  --- On Tue, 8/3/10, AqA WyrdWynd <wyrdwynd@yahoo. com> wrote:

                  From: AqA WyrdWynd <wyrdwynd@yahoo. com>
                  Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Greek Fire
                  To: medievalsawdust@ yahoogroups. com
                  Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 2:51 PM


                   

                  im more worried about who pissed this gentlelord off,..... greek fire..???.. from a seige machine ...???....me thinks we need to invest in a  " Ye Ode Bucket Brigade"....






                  --
                  Mary Ostler    
                  Apprentice to Mistress Agnes Cresewyke
                  Lions Gate Game Marshal
                  www.maryostler. com
                • Royce
                  I guess I m just more concerned that there be an ABC fire extinguisher on the engine. Greek Fire + Wood = Bad juju. Now, on the slightly more doing it just
                  Message 8 of 12 , Aug 3, 2010
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                    I guess I’m just more concerned that there be an ABC fire extinguisher on the engine.  Greek Fire + Wood = Bad juju.

                     

                    Now, on the slightly more “doing it just because” side…

                     

                    I would go for something like Napalm (naptha flakes soaked in gas basically) or white phosphorus to re-create the effect.   Each one has its own control issues, especially the willy pete.

                     

                    Anyone else care to add more fuel to the fire?

                     

                    Bercilak

                     

                     

                    From: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com [mailto:medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of froggie_910@...
                    Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 1:01 PM
                    To: Medieval Sawdust
                    Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Greek Fire

                     

                     

                    Ooo. Glass!!


                    From: Colleen Vince <42vince@...>

                    Sender: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com

                    Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 12:59:52 -0700

                    To: <medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com>

                    ReplyTo: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com

                    Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Greek Fire

                     

                     

                    Its some sort of chemical fire.... water will just spread the fire. Better to try to smother the fire with sand.

                     

                     

                    On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Trevor Payne <littleaiden@...> wrote:

                     

                    I believe Greek fire become MORE combustable with the addition of water didn't it?

                    bucket brigade?  No I don't think so.

                    Aiden


                    "Those who beat their swords into plowshares plow for those who didn't"
                    --Benjamin Franklin--

                    --- On Tue, 8/3/10, AqA WyrdWynd <wyrdwynd@...> wrote:


                    From: AqA WyrdWynd <wyrdwynd@...>
                    Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Greek Fire
                    To: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com
                    Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 2:51 PM

                     

                     

                    im more worried about who pissed this gentlelord off,..... greek fire..???.. from a seige machine ...???....me thinks we need to invest in a  " Ye Ode Bucket Brigade"....

                     




                    --
                    Mary Ostler    
                    Apprentice to Mistress Agnes Cresewyke
                    Lions Gate Game Marshal
                    www.maryostler.com

                  • AqA WyrdWynd
                    no it did increase just didnt sink or go out, floated have at ye with a flock of flaming yodeling hamsters !!! ... From: Trevor Payne
                    Message 9 of 12 , Aug 3, 2010
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                      no it did increase just didnt sink or go out, floated

                      have at ye with a flock of flaming yodeling hamsters !!!



                      --- On Tue, 8/3/10, Trevor Payne <littleaiden@...> wrote:

                      From: Trevor Payne <littleaiden@...>
                      Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Greek Fire
                      To: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com
                      Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 3:55 PM



                      I believe Greek fire become MORE combustable with the addition of water didn't it?

                      bucket brigade?  No I don't think so.

                      Aiden


                      "Those who beat their swords into plowshares plow for those who didn't"
                      --Benjamin Franklin--

                      --- On Tue, 8/3/10, AqA WyrdWynd <wyrdwynd@...> wrote:

                      From: AqA WyrdWynd <wyrdwynd@...>
                      Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Greek Fire
                      To: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com
                      Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 2:51 PM

                       

                      im more worried about who pissed this gentlelord off,..... greek fire..???.. from a seige machine ...???....me thinks we need to invest in a  " Ye Ode Bucket Brigade"....






                    • AqA WyrdWynd
                      okay, sand buckets... have at ye with a flock of flaming yodeling hamsters !!! ... From: Colleen Vince Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Greek
                      Message 10 of 12 , Aug 3, 2010
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                        okay, sand buckets...

                        have at ye with a flock of flaming yodeling hamsters !!!



                        --- On Tue, 8/3/10, Colleen Vince <42vince@...> wrote:

                        From: Colleen Vince <42vince@...>
                        Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Greek Fire
                        To: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com
                        Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 3:59 PM



                        Its some sort of chemical fire.... water will just spread the fire. Better to try to smother the fire with sand.



                        On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Trevor Payne <littleaiden@...> wrote:
                         

                        I believe Greek fire become MORE combustable with the addition of water didn't it?

                        bucket brigade?  No I don't think so.

                        Aiden


                        "Those who beat their swords into plowshares plow for those who didn't"
                        --Benjamin Franklin--

                        --- On Tue, 8/3/10, AqA WyrdWynd <wyrdwynd@...> wrote:

                        From: AqA WyrdWynd <wyrdwynd@...>
                        Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Greek Fire
                        To: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com
                        Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 2:51 PM


                         

                        im more worried about who pissed this gentlelord off,..... greek fire..???.. from a seige machine ...???....me thinks we need to invest in a  " Ye Ode Bucket Brigade"....






                        --
                        Mary Ostler    
                        Apprentice to Mistress Agnes Cresewyke
                        Lions Gate Game Marshal
                        www.maryostler.com



                      • AqA WyrdWynd
                        heheh...i failling miserable okay,m,, marshmallows and sticks then... have at ye with a flock of flaming yodeling hamsters !!! ... From:
                        Message 11 of 12 , Aug 3, 2010
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                          heheh...i failling miserable okay,m,, marshmallows and sticks then...

                          have at ye with a flock of flaming yodeling hamsters !!!



                          --- On Tue, 8/3/10, froggie_910@... <froggie_910@...> wrote:

                          From: froggie_910@... <froggie_910@...>
                          Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Greek Fire
                          To: "Medieval Sawdust" <medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com>
                          Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 4:01 PM



                          Ooo. Glass!!
                          From: Colleen Vince <42vince@...>
                          Sender: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com
                          Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 12:59:52 -0700
                          To: <medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com>
                          ReplyTo: medievalsawdust@yahoogroups.com
                          Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Greek Fire

                           

                          Its some sort of chemical fire.... water will just spread the fire. Better to try to smother the fire with sand.




                          On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Trevor Payne <littleaiden@ yahoo.com> wrote:
                           

                          I believe Greek fire become MORE combustable with the addition of water didn't it?

                          bucket brigade?  No I don't think so.

                          Aiden


                          "Those who beat their swords into plowshares plow for those who didn't"
                          --Benjamin Franklin--

                          --- On Tue, 8/3/10, AqA WyrdWynd <wyrdwynd@yahoo. com> wrote:

                          From: AqA WyrdWynd <wyrdwynd@yahoo. com>
                          Subject: Re: [MedievalSawdust] Greek Fire
                          To: medievalsawdust@ yahoogroups. com
                          Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 2:51 PM


                           

                          im more worried about who pissed this gentlelord off,..... greek fire..???.. from a seige machine ...???....me thinks we need to invest in a  " Ye Ode Bucket Brigade"....






                          --
                          Mary Ostler    
                          Apprentice to Mistress Agnes Cresewyke
                          Lions Gate Game Marshal
                          www.maryostler. com



                        • ErikB
                          That sounds like red phosphorus- water will smother white phosphorus. Erik Baird
                          Message 12 of 12 , Aug 4, 2010
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                            That sounds like red phosphorus- water will smother white phosphorus.

                            Erik Baird

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                            > no it did increase just didnt sink or go out, floated
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                            > have at ye with a flock of flaming yodeling hamsters !!!
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