Re: [medieval-leather] Pouches
> The thing I was wondering about was how the flap was fastened down.Finds at Birka included included a leather purse with metal mounts and
> Although there are a number of options, toggles, loops, buckles
> etc, I could use, I would like to find out what was most commonly
> done in period
a buckle closure. Other sources and paintings show everything from
buckles to buttons, though I can't recall ever having seen a 'toggle'
closure. (Though I'd like to find a source, as I've been making them
under the 'conjecturally period' school of thought for a while..)
Suffice it to say that depending on what source you look at, you'll
find a lot
> The book I was looking at is redrawings of manuscript pictures so is notIn most of those cases, from what I've read and seen, the fastening is
> very reliable, but the most common method, seemed to be, no fastening at
there, it's just hidden by a purse cover and/or not completely drawn.
One _very_ nice purse cover was in the Sutton Hoo find.. I happen to
have a link to an online photo or two of it, actually:
Having made a bunch of pouches with and without flap fastenings I have
just two words of advice for anyone planning on making a free-hanging
flap and no other closure: Don't Run. I lost some car keys that way.
Honestly, I don't think too many people would have used something
without one form of closure or another - too easy to lose things, to
have things stolen, etc. Bending over to tie one's shoes can often
times adjust a pouch into wierd angles.
I'd definitely be interested in anyone else's findings on period
fastenings - I'm just starting to get into pewter casting, and have
the silly idea that I want to carve and cast proper period fastenings.
Now I just have to get better at carving..
> I was consicering this. If I semed across the loops where the ..s are above,
> to hold the pouch in place, this would tend to make the flap push down. Also
> if the puch was reasonably deep, it would have to open out quite a ways
> pushing the flap outwards before it would spill its contents.
> I did see one example that had a buckle holding the flap shut, so that is
> another option.
> Any comments observations?