Re: [medieval-leather] Gallery10: Viking finds
- On 11/14/06, Anna Troy <owly3@...> wrote:
> The blades look exactly like certain types of chipFunny- and here I thought they looked rather like box cutters ;-)
> carving and Sami horn carving blades...
> Anna T
Heat it up
Hit it hard
Repent as necessary.
Has anyone seen my temper?
I seem to have misplaced it at Stalag XXXV....
- Master Magnus writes:
> The Canterbury Viking Age Swivel Knife with large<http://www.canterburytrust.co.uk/schools/gallery/gall10.htm>>
> and small blades.
With all respect, good Magister, I do not see that this blade swivels.
It looks to me as if the tang runs straight throughout and is bolted to
the bone handles at the "pommel" end and the "quillion" end, if there
were any quillions, that is, just before the business end of the blade
Also, I do not see "large and small blades." I only see one example in
four views. Is there another larger or smaller knife? I should like to
show these to my local bladesmiths, to be sure!
Yours in service,
Dame Selene Colfox, OP, OLC, etc.
- I also note that we have no sense of scale, but I find no further info at
the link, darn it! It would appear that the sharp edge was not the angled
edge, as it would be with a "swivel" knife also, by looking at the four
I'd like to know how big this is. My husband says there is a viking age
folding knife about 8" long when closed either in this collection or a
-- Lucy Rose Falconer
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Subject: [medieval-leather] Gallery10: Viking finds
The Canterbury Viking Age Swivel Knife with large
and small blades.
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- David Horvath wrote:
>Saxe knives that I have seen have whittle tangs,
> Cool! I always thought these were just really short sax blades (ie with the
> cutting edge being the longest one). I didn't know that the cutting edge
> was actually on the sloping portion of the blade.
> YIS Tarrach
short or long.
The best book I know of about Saxe/Sax/Seax knives
in Europe is:
OLSÉN, Pår : Die Saxe von Valsgärde I.
Valsgärdestudien II. Acta Musei Antiquatuatum.
Septentrion. Regiae Universitatis Upsaliensis III.
Uppsala Universitets Museum, 1945.
Almqvist and Wiksell Boktryckeri A-B, Ejnar
Ill. 4:o 124 pp in German, plus 25 plates, 371
illustrations, 5 page bibliography.
Large number of Saxe and sheath depictions,
fittings, sheath fittings, handle decorations,
carvings, related items from other
cultures stretching from western Europe to
Persia. Some decorated sword handles are
also presented. Valsgarde is a large
pre-scandinavian cemetery of about 5-700.
The weapons depicted come from not only
Valsgarde, where some warriors were
apparently buried with two saxes and one sword,
but also from other cultures by comparison.
Saxe, Seax, or Sax weapons are from the size of
small knives up to the size of small swords.
Generally Anglo-Saxon ones had an angular clip
pointed blade and a straight edge.
Scandinavian tend to have a more curved back and
sometimes a curved edge.
The decoration of the sheaths often involves both
woodcarving and decorated metalwork.
- Susan Fox wrote:
>Let your imagination loose.
> Master Magnus writes:
> > The Canterbury Viking Age Swivel Knife with large
> > and small blades.
> > <http://www.canterburytrust.co.uk/schools/gallery/gall10.htm
> With all respect, good Magister, I do not see that this blade swivels.
/ ___ ___
/ | | O | O |
edge Pivot stop edge
rivet at end
This is how they work. Handle scales not drawn in.
Only in this example the scales, or sides of the
handle, move enough to
wedge one or the other blade into it's side.
> It looks to me as if the tang runs straight throughout and is bolted toRusted into the handle. Break that thing and kiss
> the bone handles at the "pommel" end and the "quillion" end, if there
> were any quillions, that is, just before the business end of the blade
> is exposed.
> Also, I do not see "large and small blades." I only see one example in
> four views. Is there another larger or smaller knife? I should like to
> show these to my local bladesmiths, to be sure!
your career byebye.
There are probably twenty or so of the blades in
various books I have.
They mostly show up in areas that had Viking trade
This is the only one I know of with a handle survival.
Plus it happens to be a jewel of a design.
The Mammen style wasn't based on anything more
I have a three or four of the actual period single
bladed pivot knives.
The metal below the pivot on the edge side is
usually thin and almost
similar to the blade.. This seems to change on
the more complex
knives of the late Renaissnce and later periods.
I have several of those
> Yours in service,
> Dame Selene Colfox, OP, OLC, etc.
> selene@... <mailto:selene%40earthlink.net>