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10767Re: [medieval-leather] Leather Vessels

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  • Arthur Kathan
    Aug 1, 2006
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      Yes, I have observations. Lining is one of the things that I took particular note of.
      Last question first. Yes, there was a drinking-size leather tankard. It was one of those
      silver-rimmed items and more than just the rim was silver. It was a complete silver insert.
      Ht 5.625" and diam of 3". It had the sort-of fish-tail handle that can be seen throughout
      "Black Jacks and Leather Bottels". It was made from leather about 3/16" inch
      thick (12 oz.) The handle had no inserts, it is just two thicknesses of leather sewn
      together; so about 3/8" thick.

      Regarding the other vessels. None of them have any evidence of an applied lining. By
      "applied", I mean a visible layer such as pitch. The seams can be seen on the inside.
      This includes a bombard, a simple cup or beaker, a barrel-shaped bottle with a large
      square hole cut through the side (apparently the work of an early curator) and a
      bourdalou. The bourdalou showed a white-ish area on the inside surface which the
      conservator present described as 'bloom', which is something wax does.

      The bourdalou, which is shaped somewhat like a gravy boat, was described by the
      curator with no great assurance as for the use of ladies at excessively long masses.
      Strangely, for a vessel used to hold liquid, the handle was riveted on.

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Al Muckart
      To: medieval-leather@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 4:46 PM
      Subject: Re: [medieval-leather] Leather Vessels

      On Wednesday 02 August 2006 06:03, akathan@... wrote:

      Hi Corin,

      > I had the good fortune last summer to take a trip that included the
      > Royal Ontario Museum. Thanks to the guidance of some of the members
      > of this list, I was able to arrange to meet with the curator of the leather
      > vessels collection. I was allowed to handle and photograph several
      > vessels that were not on display. I have photographs of undersides
      > and insides and so on, which I will be presenting at Pennsic.

      Do you have any notes on your observations? I'm especially interested in the
      observed state of the sealants on the inside and outside of the vessels you
      looked at. Were they heavily pitched on the inside? How were the outsides
      treated? Were any of the vessels you looked at drinking-size or were they all
      serving jugs?


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