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  • Claudia Groiss
    .. is steadily growing, but I perceive a singular dearth of messages. What is it? Still the annual Thermidorean depression?
    Message 1 of 7 , Aug 17 1:56 PM
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      .. is steadily growing, but I perceive a singular dearth of messages.

      What is it? Still the annual Thermidorean depression?
    • Vanesa Montacuto
      Claudia Groiss wrote: .. is steadily growing, but I perceive a singular dearth of messages. What is it? Still the annual Thermidorean
      Message 2 of 7 , Aug 17 3:43 PM
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        Claudia Groiss <cgroiss@...> wrote:
        .. is steadily growing, but I perceive a singular dearth of messages.

        What is it? Still the annual Thermidorean depression?

        Hi, Claudia:

        Yes...This year, I had the Thermidor depression more deeply than other years. I'm becoming a romantic with the age! :D . But don't worry; I'm always here to discuss about Robespierre and his friends!

        And the others? Where you are? :)

        Vanesa.





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      • Citoyen Christer
        Hi all! I am an enthusiastic (at least so I hope :)) amateur historian and Jacobin from Sweden. Anyone in this forum who would like to discuss the interesting
        Message 3 of 7 , Aug 18 10:51 AM
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          Hi all!
          I am an enthusiastic (at least so I hope :))
          amateur historian and Jacobin from Sweden.
          Anyone in this forum who would like to discuss
          the interesting topic why Robespierre
          considered the dechristianization
          movement within his own party
          as a mere expression for counterrevolution?
          All opinions are welcome!
          Salut et Fraternité
          /Christer

          "He who would prevent ...[priests saying the mass]....
          is more a fanatic than he who says the mass"

          Robespierre at the Jacobin club November 21 1793.





          --- In maximilienrobespierre@yahoogroups.com, "Claudia Groiss"
          <cgroiss@a...> wrote:
          > .. is steadily growing, but I perceive a singular dearth of
          messages.
          >
          > What is it? Still the annual Thermidorean depression?
        • Anca R
          I guess I ll have a try at it... First of all, many frenchmen were religious, therefore the Jacobins dechristianization movement would have (and it certainly
          Message 4 of 7 , Aug 18 12:17 PM
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            I guess I'll have a try at it...
            First of all, many frenchmen were religious, therefore the Jacobins' dechristianization movement would have (and it certainly had) made the revolution unpopular.
            Second of all, I share R's opinion that some revolutionaries (like Fouche) intention to force people not to believe because they themselves didn't believe is indeed a prof of fanaticism. The only rational thing to do is to allow people to carry on with their beliefs. It's an interesting aspect that the most fanatic anti-christian revolutionairies were ex-priests, like Billaud-Varenne and Mr. "Kill and bak-stab everyone so that things go well for me" Fouche.

            Salut et fraternite!
            Anca

            Citoyen Christer <sandworm99@...> wrote:
            Hi all!
            I am an enthusiastic (at least so I hope :))
            amateur historian and Jacobin from Sweden.
            Anyone in this forum who would like to discuss
            the interesting topic why Robespierre
            considered the dechristianization
            movement within his own party
            as a mere expression for counterrevolution?
            All opinions are welcome!
            Salut et Fraternit�
            /Christer

            "He who would prevent ...[priests saying the mass]....
            is more a fanatic than he who says the mass"

            Robespierre at the Jacobin club November 21 1793.





            --- In maximilienrobespierre@yahoogroups.com, "Claudia Groiss"
            <cgroiss@a...> wrote:
            > .. is steadily growing, but I perceive a singular dearth of
            messages.
            >
            > What is it? Still the annual Thermidorean depression?


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          • Vanesa Montacuto
            Anca R wrote: I guess I ll have a try at it... First of all, many frenchmen were religious, therefore the Jacobins dechristianization
            Message 5 of 7 , Aug 18 4:08 PM
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              Anca R <ancax2003@...> wrote:
              I guess I'll have a try at it...
              First of all, many frenchmen were religious, therefore the Jacobins' dechristianization movement would have (and it certainly had) made the revolution unpopular.
              Second of all, I share R's opinion that some revolutionaries (like Fouche) intention to force people not to believe because they themselves didn't believe is indeed a prof of fanaticism. The only rational thing to do is to allow people to carry on with their beliefs. It's an interesting aspect that the most fanatic anti-christian revolutionairies were ex-priests, like Billaud-Varenne and Mr. "Kill and bak-stab everyone so that things go well for me" Fouche.

              Salut et fraternite!
              Anca



              Hi, Citoyennes:

              My english is not so perfect for discuss such questions! :) But I agree in a whole with Anca's ideas. I'm 100% with Robespierre's convictions. We can not force people to not believe just for one didn't believe. I think the "Party of the Supreme Being" was pretty well for France's people. Just my opinion. I have in horror guys as Fouché, more fanatics than the fanatics!

              Citoyenne Vanesa.




              Citoyen Christer wrote:
              Hi all!
              I am an enthusiastic (at least so I hope :))
              amateur historian and Jacobin from Sweden.
              Anyone in this forum who would like to discuss
              the interesting topic why Robespierre
              considered the dechristianization
              movement within his own party
              as a mere expression for counterrevolution?
              All opinions are welcome!
              Salut et Fraternité
              /Christer

              "He who would prevent ...[priests saying the mass]....
              is more a fanatic than he who says the mass"

              Robespierre at the Jacobin club November 21 1793.





              --- In maximilienrobespierre@yahoogroups.com, "Claudia Groiss"
              wrote:
              > .. is steadily growing, but I perceive a singular dearth of
              messages.
              >
              > What is it? Still the annual Thermidorean depression?


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            • Olena Shon
              Hi, dear friends! I was silent because I was not at home for more then 2 weeks. But now I am here again and I shall try to follow our discussions. Salut et
              Message 6 of 7 , Aug 20 6:35 AM
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                Hi, dear friends!
                I was silent because I was not at home for more then 2
                weeks. But now I am here again and I shall try to
                follow our discussions.
                Salut et fraternite!
                Lena


                --- Claudia Groiss <cgroiss@...> wrote:

                > .. is steadily growing, but I perceive a singular
                > dearth of messages.
                >
                > What is it? Still the annual Thermidorean
                > depression?
                >
                >





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              • Citoyen Christer
                Well, the Bolsheviks in Russia (and later Socialist regimes in Eastern Europe, China and so on) went into the trap to try to get rid off religion completely.
                Message 7 of 7 , Aug 22 10:33 PM
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                  Well, the Bolsheviks in Russia (and later Socialist regimes in
                  Eastern Europe, China and so on) went
                  into the trap to try to get rid off
                  religion completely. Some of the Jacobins
                  (like Hebért) wanted to go the same way.
                  Does this mean that Robespierre (and
                  other Jacobins) were very anticipating in this subject,
                  or was Robespierres own religious "belief"
                  playing the main role here?
                  Salut et Fraternité
                  Christer

                  --- In maximilienrobespierre@yahoogroups.com, Anca R <ancax2003@y...>
                  wrote:
                  > I guess I'll have a try at it...
                  > First of all, many frenchmen were religious, therefore the
                  Jacobins' dechristianization movement would have (and it certainly
                  had) made the revolution unpopular.
                  > Second of all, I share R's opinion that some revolutionaries (like
                  Fouche) intention to force people not to believe because they
                  themselves didn't believe is indeed a prof of fanaticism. The only
                  rational thing to do is to allow people to carry on with their
                  beliefs. It's an interesting aspect that the most fanatic anti-
                  christian revolutionairies were ex-priests, like Billaud-Varenne and
                  Mr. "Kill and bak-stab everyone so that things go well for me" Fouche.
                  >
                  > Salut et fraternite!
                  > Anca
                  >
                  > Citoyen Christer <sandworm99@h...> wrote:
                  > Hi all!
                  > I am an enthusiastic (at least so I hope :))
                  > amateur historian and Jacobin from Sweden.
                  > Anyone in this forum who would like to discuss
                  > the interesting topic why Robespierre
                  > considered the dechristianization
                  > movement within his own party
                  > as a mere expression for counterrevolution?
                  > All opinions are welcome!
                  > Salut et Fraternité
                  > /Christer
                  >
                  > "He who would prevent ...[priests saying the mass]....
                  > is more a fanatic than he who says the mass"
                  >
                  > Robespierre at the Jacobin club November 21 1793.
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > --- In maximilienrobespierre@yahoogroups.com, "Claudia Groiss"
                  > <cgroiss@a...> wrote:
                  > > .. is steadily growing, but I perceive a singular dearth of
                  > messages.
                  > >
                  > > What is it? Still the annual Thermidorean depression?
                  >
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