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  • louisemccausland
    Hi I am also visually impaired and have used a LOT of magnification programs in my time! I would recommend a program called Supernova Access Suite. It is
    Message 1 of 12 , Jan 20, 2011
      Hi

      I am also visually impaired and have used a LOT of magnification programs in my time! I would recommend a program called Supernova Access Suite. It is made by a company called Dolphin Computer Access, who specialise in accessibility programs for the visually impaired. They have just released Version 12 of Supernova, which I use at work. It is a magnification/speech program which works very well with windows, office and the internet. It also has a feature called `Multiple Monitors', which allows you to magnify one screen, but have another screen normal size so a fully sighted person can follow what you are doing. This feature also works with presentations.

      You can download a free trail at

      http://yourdolphin.com/productdetail.asp?id=1


      I work in a school for the visually impaired and we use Supernova throughout the school. I hope this helps!


      Louise
    • Kenneth Brodersen
      I am actually a little surprised that no one has mentioned the integrated magnifier in windows 7. It does not have a lot of fancy features, and it does not
      Message 2 of 12 , Jan 20, 2011
        I am actually a little surprised that no one has mentioned the integrated
        magnifier in windows 7. It does not have a lot of fancy features, and it
        does not offer font smoothing, which makes text look a bit blurry at high
        magnification or speech, but in my mind it is the best "no-nonsens"
        magnifier out there. And it is free! As opposed to zoomtext (which i have
        used almost 10 years) it works with any kind of application. I know it has a
        lot of drawbacks compared to zoomtext and other paid screen magnifiers, but
        for me it has totally replaced zoomtext. Paid screen magnifiers usually have
        a bad impact on a computers performance, and does not work well with many
        applications. I used more than $2000 on a high end computer just to see
        Zoomtext slow everything down to a level where many computation intensive
        applications were impossible to work with. I do not have these problems
        with the windows 7 magnifier. It works, and runs smooth, no matter if i use
        it for magnifying virtual machines running in vmware or even when I am
        editing video.

        So, seriously, before spending $500 on a screen magnifier, try the magnifier
        out already integrated in winodws 7.
        It can be activated by hitting the key-combination "win" and "+".
        Use the same combination to zoom in and "win" and "-" to zoom out. To close
        the application simply hit "win" and "escape".

        Simple, easy, nice.

        Due to the limited feature set, this is probably not the magnifier for
        everyone, but for no-nonsens magnification of everything, there is nothing
        better out there. It has sure saved my day.

        On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 12:17 AM, EMILIA BELSERENE <emiliab@...>wrote:

        >
        >
        > Local Senior Center offers computer classes but so for not of the classes
        > are suitable for the visually impaired. They would like to offer classes to
        > people like us but they need help in choosing a program. I use ZoomText.
        > Can you offer other suggestions? Thanks. - Emilia
        >
        > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
        >
        >
        >



        --
        Mvh Kenneth Brodersen

        Mail: kennethbrodersen@...
        Msn: kennethbrodersen@...
        Mobil: 30134757
        Skype: noeyewar


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      • Barbara Milleville
        Hi Kenneth, Someone else told me the same thing just yesterday. Can you tell me which applications work well when you use the Win 7 mag software that didn t
        Message 3 of 12 , Jan 21, 2011
          Hi Kenneth,

          Someone else told me the same thing just yesterday. Can you tell me which
          applications work well when you use the Win 7 mag software that didn't work
          well with other paid screen mag software? Personally, I see a big slow-down
          when using ZT with Excel or PowerPoint. How much RAM do you have on your
          box?



          This is a good list. Thanks to everyone who takes the time to share their
          expertise and experiences.



          Cheers,

          Barbara

          _____

          From: magnifiers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:magnifiers@yahoogroups.com] On
          Behalf Of Kenneth Brodersen
          Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 3:28 PM
          To: magnifiers@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: Re: [magnifiers] Recommending magnifiers





          I am actually a little surprised that no one has mentioned the integrated
          magnifier in windows 7. It does not have a lot of fancy features, and it
          does not offer font smoothing, which makes text look a bit blurry at high
          magnification or speech, but in my mind it is the best "no-nonsens"
          magnifier out there. And it is free! As opposed to zoomtext (which i have
          used almost 10 years) it works with any kind of application. I know it has a
          lot of drawbacks compared to zoomtext and other paid screen magnifiers, but
          for me it has totally replaced zoomtext. Paid screen magnifiers usually have
          a bad impact on a computers performance, and does not work well with many
          applications. I used more than $2000 on a high end computer just to see
          Zoomtext slow everything down to a level where many computation intensive
          applications were impossible to work with. I do not have these problems
          with the windows 7 magnifier. It works, and runs smooth, no matter if i use
          it for magnifying virtual machines running in vmware or even when I am
          editing video.

          So, seriously, before spending $500 on a screen magnifier, try the magnifier
          out already integrated in winodws 7.
          It can be activated by hitting the key-combination "win" and "+".
          Use the same combination to zoom in and "win" and "-" to zoom out. To close
          the application simply hit "win" and "escape".

          Simple, easy, nice.

          Due to the limited feature set, this is probably not the magnifier for
          everyone, but for no-nonsens magnification of everything, there is nothing
          better out there. It has sure saved my day.

          On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 12:17 AM, EMILIA BELSERENE <emiliab@...
          <mailto:emiliab%40olympus.net> >wrote:

          >
          >
          > Local Senior Center offers computer classes but so for not of the classes
          > are suitable for the visually impaired. They would like to offer classes
          to
          > people like us but they need help in choosing a program. I use ZoomText.
          > Can you offer other suggestions? Thanks. - Emilia
          >
          > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
          >
          >
          >

          --
          Mvh Kenneth Brodersen

          Mail: kennethbrodersen@... <mailto:kennethbrodersen%40gmail.com>
          Msn: kennethbrodersen@... <mailto:kennethbrodersen%40hotmail.com>
          Mobil: 30134757
          Skype: noeyewar

          [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



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        • Kenneth Brodersen
          I am studying software engineering, and applications like Eclipse and Visual Studio all works badly with Zoomtext. I also had problems with Firefox where
          Message 4 of 12 , Jan 21, 2011
            I am studying software engineering, and applications like Eclipse and Visual
            Studio all works badly with Zoomtext. I also had problems with Firefox where
            zoomtext would simply grind to a hold on some websites.

            I have 4 gb of memory, but it really does not matter. Zoomtext kills my
            quadcore machine as well as any other pc.

            There has been serious performance problems with zoomtext for years now, but
            it seams that any complaints about this has just been ignored. Personally I
            think this is unforgivable. I don't need a shit-load of fancy features. I
            need a magnifier that allows me to use any application that the other
            students uses. The windows 7 magnifier does exactly that and I don't ask for
            more.

            On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Barbara Milleville
            <BarbMill1@...>wrote:

            >
            >
            > Hi Kenneth,
            >
            > Someone else told me the same thing just yesterday. Can you tell me which
            > applications work well when you use the Win 7 mag software that didn't work
            > well with other paid screen mag software? Personally, I see a big slow-down
            > when using ZT with Excel or PowerPoint. How much RAM do you have on your
            > box?
            >
            > This is a good list. Thanks to everyone who takes the time to share their
            > expertise and experiences.
            >
            > Cheers,
            >
            > Barbara
            >
            > _____
            >
            > From: magnifiers@yahoogroups.com <magnifiers%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
            > magnifiers@yahoogroups.com <magnifiers%40yahoogroups.com>] On
            > Behalf Of Kenneth Brodersen
            > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 3:28 PM
            > To: magnifiers@yahoogroups.com <magnifiers%40yahoogroups.com>
            >
            > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] Recommending magnifiers
            >
            > I am actually a little surprised that no one has mentioned the integrated
            > magnifier in windows 7. It does not have a lot of fancy features, and it
            > does not offer font smoothing, which makes text look a bit blurry at high
            > magnification or speech, but in my mind it is the best "no-nonsens"
            > magnifier out there. And it is free! As opposed to zoomtext (which i have
            > used almost 10 years) it works with any kind of application. I know it has
            > a
            > lot of drawbacks compared to zoomtext and other paid screen magnifiers, but
            > for me it has totally replaced zoomtext. Paid screen magnifiers usually
            > have
            > a bad impact on a computers performance, and does not work well with many
            > applications. I used more than $2000 on a high end computer just to see
            > Zoomtext slow everything down to a level where many computation intensive
            > applications were impossible to work with. I do not have these problems
            > with the windows 7 magnifier. It works, and runs smooth, no matter if i use
            > it for magnifying virtual machines running in vmware or even when I am
            > editing video.
            >
            > So, seriously, before spending $500 on a screen magnifier, try the
            > magnifier
            > out already integrated in winodws 7.
            > It can be activated by hitting the key-combination "win" and "+".
            > Use the same combination to zoom in and "win" and "-" to zoom out. To close
            > the application simply hit "win" and "escape".
            >
            > Simple, easy, nice.
            >
            > Due to the limited feature set, this is probably not the magnifier for
            > everyone, but for no-nonsens magnification of everything, there is nothing
            > better out there. It has sure saved my day.
            >
            > On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 12:17 AM, EMILIA BELSERENE <emiliab@...<emiliab%40olympus.net>
            > <mailto:emiliab%40olympus.net <emiliab%2540olympus.net>> >wrote:
            >
            >
            > >
            > >
            > > Local Senior Center offers computer classes but so for not of the classes
            > > are suitable for the visually impaired. They would like to offer classes
            > to
            > > people like us but they need help in choosing a program. I use ZoomText.
            > > Can you offer other suggestions? Thanks. - Emilia
            > >
            > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
            > >
            > >
            > >
            >
            > --
            > Mvh Kenneth Brodersen
            >
            > Mail: kennethbrodersen@... <kennethbrodersen%40gmail.com> <mailto:
            > kennethbrodersen%40gmail.com <kennethbrodersen%2540gmail.com>>
            > Msn: kennethbrodersen@... <kennethbrodersen%40hotmail.com><mailto:
            > kennethbrodersen%40hotmail.com <kennethbrodersen%2540hotmail.com>>
            > Mobil: 30134757
            > Skype: noeyewar
            >
            > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
            >
            > _____
            >
            > size=1 width="100%" noshade color=gray align=center>
            >
            > No virus found in this message.
            > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
            > Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3391 - Release Date: 01/19/11
            >
            >
            > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
            >
            >
            >



            --
            Mvh Kenneth Brodersen

            Mail: kennethbrodersen@...
            Msn: kennethbrodersen@...
            Mobil: 30134757
            Skype: noeyewar


            [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
          • Haverp@aol.com
            Zoomtex works great for me. If its not the answer for you there are alternatives. There is no one size fits all solution as we all have different needs. I
            Message 5 of 12 , Jan 21, 2011
              Zoomtex works great for me. If its not the answer for you there are
              alternatives. There is no one size fits all solution as we all have different
              needs. I don't agree that therre are serious performance problems with
              Zoomtext. There are occasional problems that Aisquared seems to respond to as
              quickly as possible. If you are having continual problems with it, it may
              not be the best choice for your particular needs, but that does not mean
              its not the best choice for many others. Thankfully we have a number of
              choices including accessibility built into operating systems themselves these
              days.

              /greg


              In a message dated 1/21/2011 9:50:24 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
              kennethbrodersen@... writes:




              I am studying software engineering, and applications like Eclipse and
              Visual
              Studio all works badly with Zoomtext. I also had problems with Firefox
              where
              zoomtext would simply grind to a hold on some websites.

              I have 4 gb of memory, but it really does not matter. Zoomtext kills my
              quadcore machine as well as any other pc.

              There has been serious performance problems with zoomtext for years now,
              but
              it seams that any complaints about this has just been ignored. Personally
              I
              think this is unforgivable. I don't need a shit-load of fancy features. I
              need a magnifier that allows me to use any application that the other
              students uses. The windows 7 magnifier does exactly that and I don't ask
              for
              more.

              On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Barbara Milleville
              <_BarbMill1@..._ (mailto:BarbMill1@...) >wrote:

              >
              >
              > Hi Kenneth,
              >
              > Someone else told me the same thing just yesterday. Can you tell me which
              > applications work well when you use the Win 7 mag software that didn't
              work
              > well with other paid screen mag software? Personally, I see a big
              slow-down
              > when using ZT with Excel or PowerPoint. How much RAM do you have on your
              > box?
              >
              > This is a good list. Thanks to everyone who takes the time to share their
              > expertise and experiences.
              >
              > Cheers,
              >
              > Barbara
              >
              > _____
              >
              > From: _magnifiers@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:magnifiers@yahoogroups.com)
              <magnifiers%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
              > _magnifiers@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:magnifiers@yahoogroups.com)
              <magnifiers%40yahoogroups.com>] On
              > Behalf Of Kenneth Brodersen
              > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 3:28 PM
              > To: _magnifiers@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:magnifiers@yahoogroups.com)
              <magnifiers%40yahoogroups.com>
              >
              > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] Recommending magnifiers
              >
              > I am actually a little surprised that no one has mentioned the integrated
              > magnifier in windows 7. It does not have a lot of fancy features, and it
              > does not offer font smoothing, which makes text look a bit blurry at high
              > magnification or speech, but in my mind it is the best "no-nonsens"
              > magnifier out there. And it is free! As opposed to zoomtext (which i have
              > used almost 10 years) it works with any kind of application. I know it
              has
              > a
              > lot of drawbacks compared to zoomtext and other paid screen magnifiers,
              but
              > for me it has totally replaced zoomtext. Paid screen magnifiers usually
              > have
              > a bad impact on a computers performance, and does not work well with many
              > applications. I used more than $2000 on a high end computer just to see
              > Zoomtext slow everything down to a level where many computation intensive
              > applications were impossible to work with. I do not have these problems
              > with the windows 7 magnifier. It works, and runs smooth, no matter if i
              use
              > it for magnifying virtual machines running in vmware or even when I am
              > editing video.
              >
              > So, seriously, before spending $500 on a screen magnifier, try the
              > magnifier
              > out already integrated in winodws 7.
              > It can be activated by hitting the key-combination "win" and "+".
              > Use the same combination to zoom in and "win" and "-" to zoom out. To
              close
              > the application simply hit "win" and "escape".
              >
              > Simple, easy, nice.
              >
              > Due to the limited feature set, this is probably not the magnifier for
              > everyone, but for no-nonsens magnification of everything, there is
              nothing
              > better out there. It has sure saved my day.
              >
              > On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 12:17 AM, EMILIA BELSERENE
              <_emiliab@..._ (mailto:emiliab@...) <emiliab%40olympus.net>
              > <mailto:emiliab%40olympus.net <emiliab%2540olympus.net>> >wrote:
              >
              >
              > >
              > >
              > > Local Senior Center offers computer classes but so for not of the
              classes
              > > are suitable for the visually impaired. They would like to offer
              classes
              > to
              > > people like us but they need help in choosing a program. I use
              ZoomText.
              > > Can you offer other suggestions? Thanks. - Emilia
              > >
              > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
              > >
              > >
              > >
              >
              > --
              > Mvh Kenneth Brodersen
              >
              > Mail: _kennethbrodersen@..._ (mailto:kennethbrodersen@...)
              <kennethbrodersen%40gmail.com> <mailto:
              > kennethbrodersen%40gmail.com <kennethbrodersen%2540gmail.com>>
              > Msn: _kennethbrodersen@..._ (mailto:kennethbrodersen@...)
              <kennethbrodersen%40hotmail.com><mailto:
              > kennethbrodersen%40hotmail.com <kennethbrodersen%2540hotmail.com>>
              > Mobil: 30134757
              > Skype: noeyewar
              >
              > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
              >
              > _____
              >
              > size=1 width="100%" noshade color=gray align=center>
              >
              > No virus found in this message.
              > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
              > Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3391 - Release Date: 01/19/11
              >
              >
              > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
              >
              >
              >

              --
              Mvh Kenneth Brodersen

              Mail: _kennethbrodersen@..._ (mailto:kennethbrodersen@...)
              Msn: _kennethbrodersen@..._ (mailto:kennethbrodersen@...)
              Mobil: 30134757
              Skype: noeyewar

              [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





              [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
            • Karey Carbaugh
              I completely agree with Greg here!   First, if Windows 7 Magnifier works, then that is GREAT and I would certainly recommend using it!!  I have not checked
              Message 6 of 12 , Jan 22, 2011
                I completely agree with Greg here!
                 
                First, if Windows 7 Magnifier works, then that is GREAT and I would certainly recommend using it!!  I have not checked it out, but have heard VERY good things about it.  The only down-side that I've heard is that it isn't as "robust" and filled with features like ZoomText, but if you don't need or want that, then don't buy it.  Many people are just fine with an old car with no bells and whistles while others prefer, and een expect, a new cadilac and want the features of such a car.
                 
                For those of us wo have been doing this for a while now, I can remember when I had to have hardware that took up a full 5 foot long table to set it on!  I was THRILLED when IBM, my employer at the time, came up with ScreenReader/ScreenMagnifier for OS/2.  It was WONDERFUL having a magnifier and screen reader built by the same people as the operating system and it worked GREAT!  Unfortunately, OS/2 has gone the way of the cassette and 8-track tapes as well as the VHS tapes and that no longer is an option.
                 
                You mention a couple of applicatins specifically.  For FireFox, you might want to try the latest version of ZoomTexst as this is one of the recently fixed problems.  As for programs like Visual Studio nad other more visual programs, if Windows 7 Magnifier works, that is WONDERFUL!!  Many of us hav eonly dreamed of being able to use some of these more graphical programs for years!!
                 
                As for ZoomText's performance,the whole reason I chose ZoomText in the beginning, after OS/2 was gone, was its GREAT performance.   I haven't checked it out for a while, but Magic, by Henter Joyce, made ZoomText seem like it ran at lightening speed!
                 
                Like Greg said, there is no "one size fits all" solution for magnification.  If Windows 7 Magnifier works, then that is great!  Many people find that they need more than one magnifier as no one magnifier works with everything.  I've found only one or two things along the way that ZoomText won't work with.  And, as Greg said, AI Squared is pretty responsive when these things come up.
                 

                Thank you,
                Have a Great Day!

                Karey Carbaugh

                --- On Fri, 1/21/11, Haverp@... <Haverp@...> wrote:


                From: Haverp@... <Haverp@...>
                Subject: Re: [magnifiers] Recommending magnifiers
                To: magnifiers@yahoogroups.com
                Date: Friday, January 21, 2011, 3:42 PM


                 



                Zoomtex works great for me. If its not the answer for you there are
                alternatives. There is no one size fits all solution as we all have different
                needs. I don't agree that therre are serious performance problems with
                Zoomtext. There are occasional problems that Aisquared seems to respond to as
                quickly as possible. If you are having continual problems with it, it may
                not be the best choice for your particular needs, but that does not mean
                its not the best choice for many others. Thankfully we have a number of
                choices including accessibility built into operating systems themselves these
                days.

                /greg


                In a message dated 1/21/2011 9:50:24 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
                kennethbrodersen@... writes:

                I am studying software engineering, and applications like Eclipse and
                Visual
                Studio all works badly with Zoomtext. I also had problems with Firefox
                where
                zoomtext would simply grind to a hold on some websites.

                I have 4 gb of memory, but it really does not matter. Zoomtext kills my
                quadcore machine as well as any other pc.

                There has been serious performance problems with zoomtext for years now,
                but
                it seams that any complaints about this has just been ignored. Personally
                I
                think this is unforgivable. I don't need a shit-load of fancy features. I
                need a magnifier that allows me to use any application that the other
                students uses. The windows 7 magnifier does exactly that and I don't ask
                for
                more.

                On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Barbara Milleville
                <_BarbMill1@..._ (mailto:BarbMill1@...) >wrote:

                >
                >
                > Hi Kenneth,
                >
                > Someone else told me the same thing just yesterday. Can you tell me which
                > applications work well when you use the Win 7 mag software that didn't
                work
                > well with other paid screen mag software? Personally, I see a big
                slow-down
                > when using ZT with Excel or PowerPoint. How much RAM do you have on your
                > box?
                >
                > This is a good list. Thanks to everyone who takes the time to share their
                > expertise and experiences.
                >
                > Cheers,
                >
                > Barbara
                >
                > _____
                >
                > From: _magnifiers@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:magnifiers@yahoogroups.com)
                <magnifiers%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
                > _magnifiers@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:magnifiers@yahoogroups.com)
                <magnifiers%40yahoogroups.com>] On
                > Behalf Of Kenneth Brodersen
                > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 3:28 PM
                > To: _magnifiers@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:magnifiers@yahoogroups.com)
                <magnifiers%40yahoogroups.com>
                >
                > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] Recommending magnifiers
                >
                > I am actually a little surprised that no one has mentioned the integrated
                > magnifier in windows 7. It does not have a lot of fancy features, and it
                > does not offer font smoothing, which makes text look a bit blurry at high
                > magnification or speech, but in my mind it is the best "no-nonsens"
                > magnifier out there. And it is free! As opposed to zoomtext (which i have
                > used almost 10 years) it works with any kind of application. I know it
                has
                > a
                > lot of drawbacks compared to zoomtext and other paid screen magnifiers,
                but
                > for me it has totally replaced zoomtext. Paid screen magnifiers usually
                > have
                > a bad impact on a computers performance, and does not work well with many
                > applications. I used more than $2000 on a high end computer just to see
                > Zoomtext slow everything down to a level where many computation intensive
                > applications were impossible to work with. I do not have these problems
                > with the windows 7 magnifier. It works, and runs smooth, no matter if i
                use
                > it for magnifying virtual machines running in vmware or even when I am
                > editing video.
                >
                > So, seriously, before spending $500 on a screen magnifier, try the
                > magnifier
                > out already integrated in winodws 7.
                > It can be activated by hitting the key-combination "win" and "+".
                > Use the same combination to zoom in and "win" and "-" to zoom out. To
                close
                > the application simply hit "win" and "escape".
                >
                > Simple, easy, nice.
                >
                > Due to the limited feature set, this is probably not the magnifier for
                > everyone, but for no-nonsens magnification of everything, there is
                nothing
                > better out there. It has sure saved my day.
                >
                > On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 12:17 AM, EMILIA BELSERENE
                <_emiliab@..._ (mailto:emiliab@...) <emiliab%40olympus.net>
                > <mailto:emiliab%40olympus.net <emiliab%2540olympus.net>> >wrote:
                >
                >
                > >
                > >
                > > Local Senior Center offers computer classes but so for not of the
                classes
                > > are suitable for the visually impaired. They would like to offer
                classes
                > to
                > > people like us but they need help in choosing a program. I use
                ZoomText.
                > > Can you offer other suggestions? Thanks. - Emilia
                > >
                > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                > >
                > >
                > >
                >
                > --
                > Mvh Kenneth Brodersen
                >
                > Mail: _kennethbrodersen@..._ (mailto:kennethbrodersen@...)
                <kennethbrodersen%40gmail.com> <mailto:
                > kennethbrodersen%40gmail.com <kennethbrodersen%2540gmail.com>>
                > Msn: _kennethbrodersen@..._ (mailto:kennethbrodersen@...)
                <kennethbrodersen%40hotmail.com><mailto:
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