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  • John Cunniff
    Hello, Karey! Tjhank you for your quick reply6. I appreciate that. Hey, curious question. I understand that you re allowed only 3 installs with ZoomText 9.1.
    Message 1 of 27 , Jan 13, 2010
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      Hello, Karey!

      Tjhank you for your quick reply6. I appreciate that. Hey, curious question.

      I understand that you're allowed only 3 installs with ZoomText 9.1. If
      you have more than 3 computers, then, you can't install 4th computer,
      but first 3 computers, am I right?

      The reason why i ask is that in 2006 & 2007, I have a terrible problem
      with my Windows XP, it keeps locked up or booted loopbacks. My neighbor
      had to FORMAT my hard drive more than 3 times!!!! She reinstalled old
      ZoomText 7.11, and NO PROBLEM!!! It did not stop my neighbor from
      reinstalling it UNTIL I had to retire my old PC for good.My neighbor
      told me that my neighbor thought it might be a virus destroyed my
      hardware or a terrible brown-outs that led my mother's phone to mess up
      with the phone book (electronically). So, I had to retire my old PC. Got
      a loan computer then a brand-new computer, reinstalled ZoomText for
      second times, still no problem, phew! That was a big emergency, sigh!

      Let me know!

      Thank you,

      Johnny :)

      Karey Carbaugh wrote:
      > Hi John,
      >
      > I have used ZoomText for years and have 9.0 at home and 9.1 at work. I also have a copy of 8.1 here at home too. The serial numbers are all different and cannot be used on the other versions. First of all, you don't want to use the same serial number on multiple computers, because after 3 installs, you will be locked out and prevented from using that serial number again. It is intended so that you can install it on 3 different computers for the same user, as long as those 3 computers are not used simultaneously, but it prevents you from pirating the software on other computers. Beyond this, the serial numbers are different for each version of ZoomText so with the 9.1 disks, you will want to use the 9.1 serial number. That serial number should be printed in large letters on the original envelope that the CD was in, and I think it is also printed on other material in the box as well as possibly on the outside box itself.
      >
      > I hope this helps. If you cannot find the serial number, AI Squared may be able to look it up or generate a new one for you if they can verify the user and the order.
      >
      >
      > Thank you,
      > Have a Great Day!
      >
      > Karey Carbaugh
      >

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    • T H
      How does Zoom text work for software that you load onto your computer such as typing drills? ... From: Karey Carbaugh Subject: Re:
      Message 2 of 27 , Jan 13, 2010
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        How does Zoom text work for software that you load onto your computer such as typing drills?

        --- On Wed, 1/13/10, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@...> wrote:


        From: Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@...>
        Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
        To: magnifiers@yahoogroups.com
        Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 10:41 PM


         



        Hi John,
         
        I have used ZoomText for years and have 9.0 at home and 9.1 at work.  I also have a copy of 8.1 here at home too.  The serial numbers are all different and cannot be used on the other versions.  First of all, you don't want to use the same serial number on multiple computers, because after 3 installs, you will be locked out and prevented from using that serial number again.  It is intended so that you can install it on 3 different computers for the same user, as long as those 3 computers are not used simultaneously, but it prevents you from pirating the software on other computers.  Beyond this, the serial numbers are different for each version of ZoomText so with the 9.1 disks, you will want to use the 9.1 serial number.  That serial number should be printed in large letters on the original envelope that the CD was in, and I think it is also printed on other material in the box as well as possibly on the outside box itself.
         
        I hope this helps.  If you cannot find the serial number, AI Squared may be able to look it up or generate  a new one for you if they can verify the user and the order.

        Thank you,
        Have a Great Day!

        Karey Carbaugh

        --- On Wed, 1/13/10, John Cunniff <johncunniff@ gmail.com> wrote:

        From: John Cunniff <johncunniff@ gmail.com>
        Subject: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
        To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
        Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 8:15 PM

         

        Today, my friend got her ZoomText that she bought from Ai Squared and
        her sighted friend (staff interpreter) took my friend's laptop home with
        an interpreter also with ZoomText disc, too. My friend's sighted friend
        IM me to inform me that she could not activate ZoomText. She has the old
        ZoomText 8.1's Serial number. I asked her why can't she activate
        ZoomText, ut she told me "I don't know," oh well.

        All she did was installed ZoomText 9.1 into a brand-new laptop computer
        that did not have ZoomText in it yet since the laptop was bought &
        delivered into the interpreter' s house for loading & changing setting
        for the low vision client.

        Is the problem because of the wrong serial number she tried to type? Or
        was it because of the disk's problem or what? Can you clarify this for
        me? I can help the interpreter to fix a problem. Right now, ZoomText is
        forced being into a demo version for 60 days.

        Can anyone help me?

        Thank you.

        Johnny :)

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      • Karey Carbaugh
        Hi Johnny,   You re most welcome.   It is my understanding that if at all possible, you can uninstall ZoomText 9.x from the computer first, before formatting
        Message 3 of 27 , Jan 13, 2010
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          Hi Johnny,
           
          You're most welcome.
           
          It is my understanding that if at all possible, you can uninstall ZoomText 9.x from the computer first, before formatting a hard drive.  This will "give back" one of the licenses so that it can be used again.  Obviously, if your computer crashes or is so messed up that you cannot run the uninstall, then this is not possible.  Also, I think with 7.11, there was no limit on the number of licenses you could have.  I don't remember if this came into being in 8.x or 9.x.  I have also been told that if you have a situation like you described, and you are unable to "give back" a license by uninstalling ZoomText, you can call AI Squared, or possibly e-mail them and they can extend additional copies on the serial number.  I've never had to do this, so I don't know exactly how it works, and they may be able to verify that only certain copies under that serial number are in use.  In any case, I've been told that there is a way to get around the 3 copies if
          you have a situation like you described.
           
          I hope this helps.  My experience is that AI Squared is very fair with their policies and licenses.


          Thank you,
          Have a Great Day!

          Karey Carbaugh

          --- On Wed, 1/13/10, John Cunniff <johncunniff@...> wrote:


          From: John Cunniff <johncunniff@...>
          Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
          To: magnifiers@yahoogroups.com
          Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 9:01 PM


           



          Hello, Karey!

          Tjhank you for your quick reply6. I appreciate that. Hey, curious question.

          I understand that you're allowed only 3 installs with ZoomText 9.1. If
          you have more than 3 computers, then, you can't install 4th computer,
          but first 3 computers, am I right?

          The reason why i ask is that in 2006 & 2007, I have a terrible problem
          with my Windows XP, it keeps locked up or booted loopbacks. My neighbor
          had to FORMAT my hard drive more than 3 times!!!! She reinstalled old
          ZoomText 7.11, and NO PROBLEM!!! It did not stop my neighbor from
          reinstalling it UNTIL I had to retire my old PC for good.My neighbor
          told me that my neighbor thought it might be a virus destroyed my
          hardware or a terrible brown-outs that led my mother's phone to mess up
          with the phone book (electronically) . So, I had to retire my old PC. Got
          a loan computer then a brand-new computer, reinstalled ZoomText for
          second times, still no problem, phew! That was a big emergency, sigh!

          Let me know!

          Thank you,

          Johnny :)

          Karey Carbaugh wrote:
          > Hi John,
          >
          > I have used ZoomText for years and have 9.0 at home and 9.1 at work. I also have a copy of 8.1 here at home too. The serial numbers are all different and cannot be used on the other versions. First of all, you don't want to use the same serial number on multiple computers, because after 3 installs, you will be locked out and prevented from using that serial number again. It is intended so that you can install it on 3 different computers for the same user, as long as those 3 computers are not used simultaneously, but it prevents you from pirating the software on other computers. Beyond this, the serial numbers are different for each version of ZoomText so with the 9.1 disks, you will want to use the 9.1 serial number. That serial number should be printed in large letters on the original envelope that the CD was in, and I think it is also printed on other material in the box as well as possibly on the outside box itself.
          >
          > I hope this helps. If you cannot find the serial number, AI Squared may be able to look it up or generate a new one for you if they can verify the user and the order.
          >
          >
          > Thank you,
          > Have a Great Day!
          >
          > Karey Carbaugh
          >

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        • Tony Cretney
          Best to mention here that if you are not using one of the three computers that you originally used the serial number on then you can get it transferred to
          Message 4 of 27 , Jan 14, 2010
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            Best to mention here that if you are not using one of the three computers
            that you originally used the serial number on then you can get it
            transferred to another computer by contacting Sight and Sound who will
            arrange a transfer to your new computer with AI Squared This may take a few
            hours but it is well worth knowing if you have run out of activations.
            Tony
            Skype tonycu14
            H.P.laptop Skype tonycu12233
            Best wishes to all on the list
            ----- Original Message -----
            From: "John Cunniff" <johncunniff@...>
            To: <magnifiers@yahoogroups.com>
            Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 4:01 AM
            Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1


            > Hello, Karey!Bes
            >
            > Tjhank you for your quick reply6. I appreciate that. Hey, curious
            > question.
            >
            > I understand that you're allowed only 3 installs with ZoomText 9.1. If
            > you have more than 3 computers, then, you can't install 4th computer,
            > but first 3 computers, am I right?
            >
            > The reason why i ask is that in 2006 & 2007, I have a terrible problem
            > with my Windows XP, it keeps locked up or booted loopbacks. My neighbor
            > had to FORMAT my hard drive more than 3 times!!!! She reinstalled old
            > ZoomText 7.11, and NO PROBLEM!!! It did not stop my neighbor from
            > reinstalling it UNTIL I had to retire my old PC for good.My neighbor
            > told me that my neighbor thought it might be a virus destroyed my
            > hardware or a terrible brown-outs that led my mother's phone to mess up
            > with the phone book (electronically). So, I had to retire my old PC. Got
            > a loan computer then a brand-new computer, reinstalled ZoomText for
            > second times, still no problem, phew! That was a big emergency, sigh!
            >
            > Let me know!
            >
            > Thank you,
            >
            > Johnny :)
            >
            > Karey Carbaugh wrote:
            >> Hi John,
            >>
            >> I have used ZoomText for years and have 9.0 at home and 9.1 at work. I
            >> also have a copy of 8.1 here at home too. The serial numbers are all
            >> different and cannot be used on the other versions. First of all, you
            >> don't want to use the same serial number on multiple computers, because
            >> after 3 installs, you will be locked out and prevented from using that
            >> serial number again. It is intended so that you can install it on 3
            >> different computers for the same user, as long as those 3 computers are
            >> not used simultaneously, but it prevents you from pirating the software
            >> on other computers. Beyond this, the serial numbers are different for
            >> each version of ZoomText so with the 9.1 disks, you will want to use the
            >> 9.1 serial number. That serial number should be printed in large letters
            >> on the original envelope that the CD was in, and I think it is also
            >> printed on other material in the box as well as possibly on the outside
            >> box itself.
            >>
            >> I hope this helps. If you cannot find the serial number, AI Squared may
            >> be able to look it up or generate a new one for you if they can verify
            >> the user and the order.
            >>
            >>
            >> Thank you,
            >> Have a Great Day!
            >>
            >> Karey Carbaugh
            >>
            >
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            >
            >
            >
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          • Karey Carbaugh
            I m not familiar with typing drills specifically, but ZoomText runs independantly form other software that you load on your computer.  As long as the software
            Message 5 of 27 , Jan 14, 2010
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              I'm not familiar with typing drills specifically, but ZoomText runs independantly form other software that you load on your computer.  As long as the software follows general accessibility standards, I have only found a few programs where ZoomText will not work properly.  Even in those applications, I have generally been able to find work-arounds that will make ZoomText at least function with them.


              Thank you,
              Have a Great Day!

              Karey Carbaugh

              --- On Wed, 1/13/10, T H <mrstish05@...> wrote:


              From: T H <mrstish05@...>
              Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
              To: magnifiers@yahoogroups.com
              Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 9:15 PM


               



              How does Zoom text work for software that you load onto your computer such as typing drills?

              --- On Wed, 1/13/10, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com> wrote:

              From: Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com>
              Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
              To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
              Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 10:41 PM

               

              Hi John,
               
              I have used ZoomText for years and have 9.0 at home and 9.1 at work.  I also have a copy of 8.1 here at home too.  The serial numbers are all different and cannot be used on the other versions.  First of all, you don't want to use the same serial number on multiple computers, because after 3 installs, you will be locked out and prevented from using that serial number again.  It is intended so that you can install it on 3 different computers for the same user, as long as those 3 computers are not used simultaneously, but it prevents you from pirating the software on other computers.  Beyond this, the serial numbers are different for each version of ZoomText so with the 9.1 disks, you will want to use the 9.1 serial number.  That serial number should be printed in large letters on the original envelope that the CD was in, and I think it is also printed on other material in the box as well as possibly on the outside box itself.
               
              I hope this helps.  If you cannot find the serial number, AI Squared may be able to look it up or generate  a new one for you if they can verify the user and the order.

              Thank you,
              Have a Great Day!

              Karey Carbaugh

              --- On Wed, 1/13/10, John Cunniff <johncunniff@ gmail.com> wrote:

              From: John Cunniff <johncunniff@ gmail.com>
              Subject: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
              To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
              Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 8:15 PM

               

              Today, my friend got her ZoomText that she bought from Ai Squared and
              her sighted friend (staff interpreter) took my friend's laptop home with
              an interpreter also with ZoomText disc, too. My friend's sighted friend
              IM me to inform me that she could not activate ZoomText. She has the old
              ZoomText 8.1's Serial number. I asked her why can't she activate
              ZoomText, ut she told me "I don't know," oh well.

              All she did was installed ZoomText 9.1 into a brand-new laptop computer
              that did not have ZoomText in it yet since the laptop was bought &
              delivered into the interpreter' s house for loading & changing setting
              for the low vision client.

              Is the problem because of the wrong serial number she tried to type? Or
              was it because of the disk's problem or what? Can you clarify this for
              me? I can help the interpreter to fix a problem. Right now, ZoomText is
              forced being into a demo version for 60 days.

              Can anyone help me?

              Thank you.

              Johnny :)

              --
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              List owns:
              DBSocial, DBTechies
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              (two private lists)
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            • Karey Carbaugh
              Thanks Tony,   I m not familiar with Sight and Sound, but I thoink you and do this directly with AI Squared, either by phone, or if you re outside of the
              Message 6 of 27 , Jan 14, 2010
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                Thanks Tony,
                 
                I'm not familiar with Sight and Sound, but I thoink you and do this directly with AI Squared, either by phone, or if you're outside of the U.S., by sending an e-mail to support@....  This is basically what I mentioned when I said that they could unlock your licenses if you went over 3.  If you've had problems, it may be that multiple license copies have been registered on the same machine and they can tell this and release/transfer some of them as well as transfer licenses as Tony mentioned.
                 
                Thanks for what might be a better explanation than mine, Tony!


                Thank you,
                Have a Great Day!

                Karey Carbaugh

                --- On Thu, 1/14/10, Tony Cretney <rac@...> wrote:


                From: Tony Cretney <rac@...>
                Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                To: magnifiers@yahoogroups.com
                Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 4:48 AM


                 



                Best to mention here that if you are not using one of the three computers
                that you originally used the serial number on then you can get it
                transferred to another computer by contacting Sight and Sound who will
                arrange a transfer to your new computer with AI Squared This may take a few
                hours but it is well worth knowing if you have run out of activations.
                Tony
                Skype tonycu14
                H.P.laptop Skype tonycu12233
                Best wishes to all on the list
                ----- Original Message -----
                From: "John Cunniff" <johncunniff@ gmail.com>
                To: <magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com>
                Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 4:01 AM
                Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1

                > Hello, Karey!Bes
                >
                > Tjhank you for your quick reply6. I appreciate that. Hey, curious
                > question.
                >
                > I understand that you're allowed only 3 installs with ZoomText 9.1. If
                > you have more than 3 computers, then, you can't install 4th computer,
                > but first 3 computers, am I right?
                >
                > The reason why i ask is that in 2006 & 2007, I have a terrible problem
                > with my Windows XP, it keeps locked up or booted loopbacks. My neighbor
                > had to FORMAT my hard drive more than 3 times!!!! She reinstalled old
                > ZoomText 7.11, and NO PROBLEM!!! It did not stop my neighbor from
                > reinstalling it UNTIL I had to retire my old PC for good.My neighbor
                > told me that my neighbor thought it might be a virus destroyed my
                > hardware or a terrible brown-outs that led my mother's phone to mess up
                > with the phone book (electronically) . So, I had to retire my old PC. Got
                > a loan computer then a brand-new computer, reinstalled ZoomText for
                > second times, still no problem, phew! That was a big emergency, sigh!
                >
                > Let me know!
                >
                > Thank you,
                >
                > Johnny :)
                >
                > Karey Carbaugh wrote:
                >> Hi John,
                >>
                >> I have used ZoomText for years and have 9.0 at home and 9.1 at work. I
                >> also have a copy of 8.1 here at home too. The serial numbers are all
                >> different and cannot be used on the other versions. First of all, you
                >> don't want to use the same serial number on multiple computers, because
                >> after 3 installs, you will be locked out and prevented from using that
                >> serial number again. It is intended so that you can install it on 3
                >> different computers for the same user, as long as those 3 computers are
                >> not used simultaneously, but it prevents you from pirating the software
                >> on other computers. Beyond this, the serial numbers are different for
                >> each version of ZoomText so with the 9.1 disks, you will want to use the
                >> 9.1 serial number. That serial number should be printed in large letters
                >> on the original envelope that the CD was in, and I think it is also
                >> printed on other material in the box as well as possibly on the outside
                >> box itself.
                >>
                >> I hope this helps. If you cannot find the serial number, AI Squared may
                >> be able to look it up or generate a new one for you if they can verify
                >> the user and the order.
                >>
                >>
                >> Thank you,
                >> Have a Great Day!
                >>
                >> Karey Carbaugh
                >>
                >
                > --
                > John Cunniff
                > List owns:
                > DBSocial, DBTechies
                > List moderating:
                > (two private lists)
                > E-mail: johnc@shellworld. net
                >
                >
                >
                >
                > ------------ --------- --------- ------
                >
                > The Screen Magnifiers Homepage
                > http://www.magnifie rs.org
                > Make It Visible!
                >
                >
                >
                > Yahoo! Groups Links
                >
                >
                >
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              • T H
                Thank you for your response.  I am interested in purchasing Zoomtext due to the fact that I have low vision and take online classes as well as surf the
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                  Thank you for your response.  I am interested in purchasing Zoomtext due to the fact that I have low vision and take online classes as well as surf the internet.  I am just not sure if it is any different from the magnifier that I have access to on Microsoft XP.

                  --- On Thu, 1/14/10, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@...> wrote:


                  From: Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@...>
                  Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                  To: magnifiers@yahoogroups.com
                  Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 12:22 PM


                   



                  I'm not familiar with typing drills specifically, but ZoomText runs independantly form other software that you load on your computer.  As long as the software follows general accessibility standards, I have only found a few programs where ZoomText will not work properly.  Even in those applications, I have generally been able to find work-arounds that will make ZoomText at least function with them.

                  Thank you,
                  Have a Great Day!

                  Karey Carbaugh

                  --- On Wed, 1/13/10, T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com> wrote:

                  From: T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com>
                  Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                  To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                  Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 9:15 PM

                   

                  How does Zoom text work for software that you load onto your computer such as typing drills?

                  --- On Wed, 1/13/10, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com> wrote:

                  From: Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com>
                  Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                  To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                  Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 10:41 PM

                   

                  Hi John,
                   
                  I have used ZoomText for years and have 9.0 at home and 9.1 at work.  I also have a copy of 8.1 here at home too.  The serial numbers are all different and cannot be used on the other versions.  First of all, you don't want to use the same serial number on multiple computers, because after 3 installs, you will be locked out and prevented from using that serial number again.  It is intended so that you can install it on 3 different computers for the same user, as long as those 3 computers are not used simultaneously, but it prevents you from pirating the software on other computers.  Beyond this, the serial numbers are different for each version of ZoomText so with the 9.1 disks, you will want to use the 9.1 serial number.  That serial number should be printed in large letters on the original envelope that the CD was in, and I think it is also printed on other material in the box as well as possibly on the outside box itself.
                   
                  I hope this helps.  If you cannot find the serial number, AI Squared may be able to look it up or generate  a new one for you if they can verify the user and the order.

                  Thank you,
                  Have a Great Day!

                  Karey Carbaugh

                  --- On Wed, 1/13/10, John Cunniff <johncunniff@ gmail.com> wrote:

                  From: John Cunniff <johncunniff@ gmail.com>
                  Subject: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                  To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                  Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 8:15 PM

                   

                  Today, my friend got her ZoomText that she bought from Ai Squared and
                  her sighted friend (staff interpreter) took my friend's laptop home with
                  an interpreter also with ZoomText disc, too. My friend's sighted friend
                  IM me to inform me that she could not activate ZoomText. She has the old
                  ZoomText 8.1's Serial number. I asked her why can't she activate
                  ZoomText, ut she told me "I don't know," oh well.

                  All she did was installed ZoomText 9.1 into a brand-new laptop computer
                  that did not have ZoomText in it yet since the laptop was bought &
                  delivered into the interpreter' s house for loading & changing setting
                  for the low vision client.

                  Is the problem because of the wrong serial number she tried to type? Or
                  was it because of the disk's problem or what? Can you clarify this for
                  me? I can help the interpreter to fix a problem. Right now, ZoomText is
                  forced being into a demo version for 60 days.

                  Can anyone help me?

                  Thank you.

                  Johnny :)

                  --
                  John Cunniff
                  List owns:
                  DBSocial, DBTechies
                  List moderating:
                  (two private lists)
                  E-mail: johnc@shellworld. net

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                • Karey Carbaugh
                  Hello,   You re welcome, and I am in a similar situation to you.  I ve used ZoomText for years and absolutely love it.  I think you will find it is much
                  Message 8 of 27 , Jan 15, 2010
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                    Hello,
                     
                    You're welcome, and I am in a similar situation to you.  I've used ZoomText for years and absolutely love it.  I think you will find it is much different from the Magnifier in Windows XP, though I've heard good things about the magnifier in Windows 7.  What I would recommend you try beforre purchasing ZoomText though is to go to AI Squared's website at www.aisquared.com, or the Magnifiers website at www.magnifiers.org, and you can download a demo which is the full-functioning product that will run for 30 days (I've heard that the newer versions may be longer.  This way you can try it before you buy it to see if it gives you enought added capability and also to see if it will work with your particular applications and environment.  Unlike other products, it is not a 15 minute demo that you have to re-boot every 15 minutes, or a partially functioning demo without all of the capabilities, but you get the whole product, unlimited, for at least 30 days.
                     
                    I hope this helps.  Good luck!


                    Thank you,
                    Have a Great Day!

                    Karey Carbaugh

                    --- On Thu, 1/14/10, T H <mrstish05@...> wrote:


                    From: T H <mrstish05@...>
                    Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                    To: magnifiers@yahoogroups.com
                    Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 3:58 PM


                     



                    Thank you for your response.  I am interested in purchasing Zoomtext due to the fact that I have low vision and take online classes as well as surf the internet.  I am just not sure if it is any different from the magnifier that I have access to on Microsoft XP.

                    --- On Thu, 1/14/10, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com> wrote:

                    From: Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com>
                    Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                    To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                    Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 12:22 PM

                     

                    I'm not familiar with typing drills specifically, but ZoomText runs independantly form other software that you load on your computer.  As long as the software follows general accessibility standards, I have only found a few programs where ZoomText will not work properly.  Even in those applications, I have generally been able to find work-arounds that will make ZoomText at least function with them.

                    Thank you,
                    Have a Great Day!

                    Karey Carbaugh

                    --- On Wed, 1/13/10, T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com> wrote:

                    From: T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com>
                    Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                    To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                    Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 9:15 PM

                     

                    How does Zoom text work for software that you load onto your computer such as typing drills?

                    --- On Wed, 1/13/10, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com> wrote:

                    From: Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com>
                    Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                    To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                    Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 10:41 PM

                     

                    Hi John,
                     
                    I have used ZoomText for years and have 9.0 at home and 9.1 at work.  I also have a copy of 8.1 here at home too.  The serial numbers are all different and cannot be used on the other versions.  First of all, you don't want to use the same serial number on multiple computers, because after 3 installs, you will be locked out and prevented from using that serial number again.  It is intended so that you can install it on 3 different computers for the same user, as long as those 3 computers are not used simultaneously, but it prevents you from pirating the software on other computers.  Beyond this, the serial numbers are different for each version of ZoomText so with the 9.1 disks, you will want to use the 9.1 serial number.  That serial number should be printed in large letters on the original envelope that the CD was in, and I think it is also printed on other material in the box as well as possibly on the outside box itself.
                     
                    I hope this helps.  If you cannot find the serial number, AI Squared may be able to look it up or generate  a new one for you if they can verify the user and the order.

                    Thank you,
                    Have a Great Day!

                    Karey Carbaugh

                    --- On Wed, 1/13/10, John Cunniff <johncunniff@ gmail.com> wrote:

                    From: John Cunniff <johncunniff@ gmail.com>
                    Subject: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                    To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                    Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 8:15 PM

                     

                    Today, my friend got her ZoomText that she bought from Ai Squared and
                    her sighted friend (staff interpreter) took my friend's laptop home with
                    an interpreter also with ZoomText disc, too. My friend's sighted friend
                    IM me to inform me that she could not activate ZoomText. She has the old
                    ZoomText 8.1's Serial number. I asked her why can't she activate
                    ZoomText, ut she told me "I don't know," oh well.

                    All she did was installed ZoomText 9.1 into a brand-new laptop computer
                    that did not have ZoomText in it yet since the laptop was bought &
                    delivered into the interpreter' s house for loading & changing setting
                    for the low vision client.

                    Is the problem because of the wrong serial number she tried to type? Or
                    was it because of the disk's problem or what? Can you clarify this for
                    me? I can help the interpreter to fix a problem. Right now, ZoomText is
                    forced being into a demo version for 60 days.

                    Can anyone help me?

                    Thank you.

                    Johnny :)

                    --
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                    List owns:
                    DBSocial, DBTechies
                    List moderating:
                    (two private lists)
                    E-mail: johnc@shellworld. net

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                  • T H
                    Yes this helps greatly.  I wll check one of the websites and sample Zoomtext before purchasing it.  Thank you ... From: Karey Carbaugh
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                      Yes this helps greatly.  I wll check one of the websites and sample Zoomtext before purchasing it.  Thank you

                      --- On Fri, 1/15/10, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@...> wrote:


                      From: Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@...>
                      Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                      To: magnifiers@yahoogroups.com
                      Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 4:08 PM


                       



                      Hello,
                       
                      You're welcome, and I am in a similar situation to you.  I've used ZoomText for years and absolutely love it.  I think you will find it is much different from the Magnifier in Windows XP, though I've heard good things about the magnifier in Windows 7.  What I would recommend you try beforre purchasing ZoomText though is to go to AI Squared's website at www.aisquared. com, or the Magnifiers website at www.magnifiers. org, and you can download a demo which is the full-functioning product that will run for 30 days (I've heard that the newer versions may be longer.  This way you can try it before you buy it to see if it gives you enought added capability and also to see if it will work with your particular applications and environment.  Unlike other products, it is not a 15 minute demo that you have to re-boot every 15 minutes, or a partially functioning demo without all of the capabilities, but you get the whole product, unlimited, for at least 30
                      days.
                       
                      I hope this helps.  Good luck!

                      Thank you,
                      Have a Great Day!

                      Karey Carbaugh

                      --- On Thu, 1/14/10, T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com> wrote:

                      From: T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com>
                      Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                      To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                      Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 3:58 PM

                       

                      Thank you for your response.  I am interested in purchasing Zoomtext due to the fact that I have low vision and take online classes as well as surf the internet.  I am just not sure if it is any different from the magnifier that I have access to on Microsoft XP.

                      --- On Thu, 1/14/10, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com> wrote:

                      From: Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com>
                      Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                      To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                      Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 12:22 PM

                       

                      I'm not familiar with typing drills specifically, but ZoomText runs independantly form other software that you load on your computer.  As long as the software follows general accessibility standards, I have only found a few programs where ZoomText will not work properly.  Even in those applications, I have generally been able to find work-arounds that will make ZoomText at least function with them.

                      Thank you,
                      Have a Great Day!

                      Karey Carbaugh

                      --- On Wed, 1/13/10, T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com> wrote:

                      From: T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com>
                      Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                      To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                      Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 9:15 PM

                       

                      How does Zoom text work for software that you load onto your computer such as typing drills?

                      --- On Wed, 1/13/10, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com> wrote:

                      From: Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com>
                      Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                      To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                      Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 10:41 PM

                       

                      Hi John,
                       
                      I have used ZoomText for years and have 9.0 at home and 9.1 at work.  I also have a copy of 8.1 here at home too.  The serial numbers are all different and cannot be used on the other versions.  First of all, you don't want to use the same serial number on multiple computers, because after 3 installs, you will be locked out and prevented from using that serial number again.  It is intended so that you can install it on 3 different computers for the same user, as long as those 3 computers are not used simultaneously, but it prevents you from pirating the software on other computers.  Beyond this, the serial numbers are different for each version of ZoomText so with the 9.1 disks, you will want to use the 9.1 serial number.  That serial number should be printed in large letters on the original envelope that the CD was in, and I think it is also printed on other material in the box as well as possibly on the outside box itself.
                       
                      I hope this helps.  If you cannot find the serial number, AI Squared may be able to look it up or generate  a new one for you if they can verify the user and the order.

                      Thank you,
                      Have a Great Day!

                      Karey Carbaugh

                      --- On Wed, 1/13/10, John Cunniff <johncunniff@ gmail.com> wrote:

                      From: John Cunniff <johncunniff@ gmail.com>
                      Subject: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                      To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                      Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 8:15 PM

                       

                      Today, my friend got her ZoomText that she bought from Ai Squared and
                      her sighted friend (staff interpreter) took my friend's laptop home with
                      an interpreter also with ZoomText disc, too. My friend's sighted friend
                      IM me to inform me that she could not activate ZoomText. She has the old
                      ZoomText 8.1's Serial number. I asked her why can't she activate
                      ZoomText, ut she told me "I don't know," oh well.

                      All she did was installed ZoomText 9.1 into a brand-new laptop computer
                      that did not have ZoomText in it yet since the laptop was bought &
                      delivered into the interpreter' s house for loading & changing setting
                      for the low vision client.

                      Is the problem because of the wrong serial number she tried to type? Or
                      was it because of the disk's problem or what? Can you clarify this for
                      me? I can help the interpreter to fix a problem. Right now, ZoomText is
                      forced being into a demo version for 60 days.

                      Can anyone help me?

                      Thank you.

                      Johnny :)

                      --
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                      List owns:
                      DBSocial, DBTechies
                      List moderating:
                      (two private lists)
                      E-mail: johnc@shellworld. net

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                    • Bas Cancrinus
                      Forget XP and ZoomText. Go for the Windows 7 magnifier. Believe me, it s the best option and it s future-proof. Check out YouTube for some clips to convince
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                        Forget XP and ZoomText. Go for the Windows 7 magnifier. Believe me, it's the
                        best option and it's future-proof. Check out YouTube for some clips to
                        convince yourself.

                        Bas

                        On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:58 PM, T H <mrstish05@...> wrote:

                        >
                        >
                        > Thank you for your response. I am interested in purchasing Zoomtext due to
                        > the fact that I have low vision and take online classes as well as surf the
                        > internet. I am just not sure if it is any different from the magnifier that
                        > I have access to on Microsoft XP.
                        >
                        >
                        > --- On Thu, 1/14/10, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@...<kareycarbaugh%40yahoo.com>>
                        > wrote:
                        >
                        > From: Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@... <kareycarbaugh%40yahoo.com>>
                        > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                        > To: magnifiers@yahoogroups.com <magnifiers%40yahoogroups.com>
                        > Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 12:22 PM
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        > I'm not familiar with typing drills specifically, but ZoomText runs
                        > independantly form other software that you load on your computer. As long
                        > as the software follows general accessibility standards, I have only found a
                        > few programs where ZoomText will not work properly. Even in those
                        > applications, I have generally been able to find work-arounds that will make
                        > ZoomText at least function with them.
                        >
                        > Thank you,
                        > Have a Great Day!
                        >
                        > Karey Carbaugh
                        >
                        > --- On Wed, 1/13/10, T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com> wrote:
                        >
                        > From: T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com>
                        > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                        > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                        > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 9:15 PM
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        > How does Zoom text work for software that you load onto your computer such
                        > as typing drills?
                        >
                        > --- On Wed, 1/13/10, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com> wrote:
                        >
                        > From: Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com>
                        > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                        > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                        > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 10:41 PM
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        > Hi John,
                        >
                        > I have used ZoomText for years and have 9.0 at home and 9.1 at work. I
                        > also have a copy of 8.1 here at home too. The serial numbers are all
                        > different and cannot be used on the other versions. First of all, you don't
                        > want to use the same serial number on multiple computers, because after 3
                        > installs, you will be locked out and prevented from using that serial number
                        > again. It is intended so that you can install it on 3 different computers
                        > for the same user, as long as those 3 computers are not used simultaneously,
                        > but it prevents you from pirating the software on other computers. Beyond
                        > this, the serial numbers are different for each version of ZoomText so with
                        > the 9.1 disks, you will want to use the 9.1 serial number. That serial
                        > number should be printed in large letters on the original envelope that the
                        > CD was in, and I think it is also printed on other material in the box as
                        > well as possibly on the outside box itself.
                        >
                        > I hope this helps. If you cannot find the serial number, AI Squared may be
                        > able to look it up or generate a new one for you if they can verify the
                        > user and the order.
                        >
                        > Thank you,
                        > Have a Great Day!
                        >
                        > Karey Carbaugh
                        >
                        > --- On Wed, 1/13/10, John Cunniff <johncunniff@ gmail.com> wrote:
                        >
                        > From: John Cunniff <johncunniff@ gmail.com>
                        > Subject: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                        > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                        > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 8:15 PM
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        > Today, my friend got her ZoomText that she bought from Ai Squared and
                        > her sighted friend (staff interpreter) took my friend's laptop home with
                        > an interpreter also with ZoomText disc, too. My friend's sighted friend
                        > IM me to inform me that she could not activate ZoomText. She has the old
                        > ZoomText 8.1's Serial number. I asked her why can't she activate
                        > ZoomText, ut she told me "I don't know," oh well.
                        >
                        > All she did was installed ZoomText 9.1 into a brand-new laptop computer
                        > that did not have ZoomText in it yet since the laptop was bought &
                        > delivered into the interpreter' s house for loading & changing setting
                        > for the low vision client.
                        >
                        > Is the problem because of the wrong serial number she tried to type? Or
                        > was it because of the disk's problem or what? Can you clarify this for
                        > me? I can help the interpreter to fix a problem. Right now, ZoomText is
                        > forced being into a demo version for 60 days.
                        >
                        > Can anyone help me?
                        >
                        > Thank you.
                        >
                        > Johnny :)
                        >
                        > --
                        > John Cunniff
                        > List owns:
                        > DBSocial, DBTechies
                        > List moderating:
                        > (two private lists)
                        > E-mail: johnc@shellworld. net
                        >
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                      • Karey Carbaugh
                        I m anxious to try out Windows 7 and the built-in magnifier, but I wouldn t throw out the ZoomText CDs quite yet.  Does Windows Magnifier offer any of the
                        Message 11 of 27 , Jan 16, 2010
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                          I'm anxious to try out Windows 7 and the built-in magnifier, but I wouldn't throw out the ZoomText CDs quite yet.  Does Windows Magnifier offer any of the reading features of  ZoomText Level 2 which will speak the screen?


                          Thank you,
                          Have a Great Day!

                          Karey Carbaugh

                          --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Bas Cancrinus <bascancr@...> wrote:


                          From: Bas Cancrinus <bascancr@...>
                          Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                          To: magnifiers@yahoogroups.com
                          Date: Saturday, January 16, 2010, 6:46 AM


                           



                          Forget XP and ZoomText. Go for the Windows 7 magnifier. Believe me, it's the
                          best option and it's future-proof. Check out YouTube for some clips to
                          convince yourself.

                          Bas

                          On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:58 PM, T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com> wrote:

                          >
                          >
                          > Thank you for your response. I am interested in purchasing Zoomtext due to
                          > the fact that I have low vision and take online classes as well as surf the
                          > internet. I am just not sure if it is any different from the magnifier that
                          > I have access to on Microsoft XP.
                          >
                          >
                          > --- On Thu, 1/14/10, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com<kareycarbaugh% 40yahoo.com> >
                          > wrote:
                          >
                          > From: Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com <kareycarbaugh% 40yahoo.com> >
                          > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                          > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com <magnifiers% 40yahoogroups. com>
                          > Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 12:22 PM
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          > I'm not familiar with typing drills specifically, but ZoomText runs
                          > independantly form other software that you load on your computer. As long
                          > as the software follows general accessibility standards, I have only found a
                          > few programs where ZoomText will not work properly. Even in those
                          > applications, I have generally been able to find work-arounds that will make
                          > ZoomText at least function with them.
                          >
                          > Thank you,
                          > Have a Great Day!
                          >
                          > Karey Carbaugh
                          >
                          > --- On Wed, 1/13/10, T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com> wrote:
                          >
                          > From: T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com>
                          > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                          > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                          > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 9:15 PM
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          > How does Zoom text work for software that you load onto your computer such
                          > as typing drills?
                          >
                          > --- On Wed, 1/13/10, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com> wrote:
                          >
                          > From: Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com>
                          > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                          > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                          > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 10:41 PM
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          > Hi John,
                          >
                          > I have used ZoomText for years and have 9.0 at home and 9.1 at work. I
                          > also have a copy of 8.1 here at home too. The serial numbers are all
                          > different and cannot be used on the other versions. First of all, you don't
                          > want to use the same serial number on multiple computers, because after 3
                          > installs, you will be locked out and prevented from using that serial number
                          > again. It is intended so that you can install it on 3 different computers
                          > for the same user, as long as those 3 computers are not used simultaneously,
                          > but it prevents you from pirating the software on other computers. Beyond
                          > this, the serial numbers are different for each version of ZoomText so with
                          > the 9.1 disks, you will want to use the 9.1 serial number. That serial
                          > number should be printed in large letters on the original envelope that the
                          > CD was in, and I think it is also printed on other material in the box as
                          > well as possibly on the outside box itself.
                          >
                          > I hope this helps. If you cannot find the serial number, AI Squared may be
                          > able to look it up or generate a new one for you if they can verify the
                          > user and the order.
                          >
                          > Thank you,
                          > Have a Great Day!
                          >
                          > Karey Carbaugh
                          >
                          > --- On Wed, 1/13/10, John Cunniff <johncunniff@ gmail.com> wrote:
                          >
                          > From: John Cunniff <johncunniff@ gmail.com>
                          > Subject: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                          > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                          > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 8:15 PM
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          > Today, my friend got her ZoomText that she bought from Ai Squared and
                          > her sighted friend (staff interpreter) took my friend's laptop home with
                          > an interpreter also with ZoomText disc, too. My friend's sighted friend
                          > IM me to inform me that she could not activate ZoomText. She has the old
                          > ZoomText 8.1's Serial number. I asked her why can't she activate
                          > ZoomText, ut she told me "I don't know," oh well.
                          >
                          > All she did was installed ZoomText 9.1 into a brand-new laptop computer
                          > that did not have ZoomText in it yet since the laptop was bought &
                          > delivered into the interpreter' s house for loading & changing setting
                          > for the low vision client.
                          >
                          > Is the problem because of the wrong serial number she tried to type? Or
                          > was it because of the disk's problem or what? Can you clarify this for
                          > me? I can help the interpreter to fix a problem. Right now, ZoomText is
                          > forced being into a demo version for 60 days.
                          >
                          > Can anyone help me?
                          >
                          > Thank you.
                          >
                          > Johnny :)
                          >
                          > --
                          > John Cunniff
                          > List owns:
                          > DBSocial, DBTechies
                          > List moderating:
                          > (two private lists)
                          > E-mail: johnc@shellworld. net
                          >
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                          >
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                          >

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                        • John Cunniff
                          Hello, Karey & the rest who runs Windows 7... I do not use Windows 7 yet, but want to know does Windows 7 Magnifiers magnify full screen? Does it do Reverse
                          Message 12 of 27 , Jan 16, 2010
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                            Hello, Karey & the rest who runs Windows 7...

                            I do not use Windows 7 yet, but want to know does Windows 7 Magnifiers
                            magnify full screen? Does it do Reverse video (found in ZoomText 9.x's
                            Scheme menu)? I tried Windows 98's Magnifier, but it was loooooousy!! I
                            noticed it messes up my desktop icons if I tries to stretch my window
                            further, I think. Windows ME/XP was the same. I gave them up immediately.

                            Thank you,

                            Karey, I will have a great day - going to a Deaf Social at a bar 40-45
                            minutes away from my home! :) I hope you have a great day yourself!

                            Johnny :)

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                            DBSocial, DBTechies
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                          • Bas Cancrinus
                            Yes, W7 has a built-in screen reader. I don t use a screen reader, so I can t tell you how it performs. Please check it out and add your findings to this
                            Message 13 of 27 , Jan 16, 2010
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                              Yes, W7 has a built-in screen reader. I don't use a screen reader, so I
                              can't tell you how it performs.
                              Please check it out and add your findings to this thread.

                              On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@...>wrote:

                              >
                              >
                              > I'm anxious to try out Windows 7 and the built-in magnifier, but I wouldn't
                              > throw out the ZoomText CDs quite yet. Does Windows Magnifier offer any of
                              > the reading features of ZoomText Level 2 which will speak the screen?
                              >
                              >
                              > Thank you,
                              > Have a Great Day!
                              >
                              > Karey Carbaugh
                              >
                              > --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Bas Cancrinus <bascancr@...<bascancr%40gmail.com>>
                              > wrote:
                              >
                              > From: Bas Cancrinus <bascancr@... <bascancr%40gmail.com>>
                              >
                              > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                              > To: magnifiers@yahoogroups.com <magnifiers%40yahoogroups.com>
                              > Date: Saturday, January 16, 2010, 6:46 AM
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > Forget XP and ZoomText. Go for the Windows 7 magnifier. Believe me, it's
                              > the
                              > best option and it's future-proof. Check out YouTube for some clips to
                              > convince yourself.
                              >
                              > Bas
                              >
                              > On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:58 PM, T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com> wrote:
                              >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > > Thank you for your response. I am interested in purchasing Zoomtext due
                              > to
                              > > the fact that I have low vision and take online classes as well as surf
                              > the
                              > > internet. I am just not sure if it is any different from the magnifier
                              > that
                              > > I have access to on Microsoft XP.
                              > >
                              > >
                              > > --- On Thu, 1/14/10, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com<kareycarbaugh%
                              > 40yahoo.com> >
                              > > wrote:
                              > >
                              > > From: Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com <kareycarbaugh%
                              > 40yahoo.com> >
                              >
                              > > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                              > > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com <magnifiers% 40yahoogroups. com>
                              >
                              > > Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 12:22 PM
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > > I'm not familiar with typing drills specifically, but ZoomText runs
                              > > independantly form other software that you load on your computer. As long
                              > > as the software follows general accessibility standards, I have only
                              > found a
                              > > few programs where ZoomText will not work properly. Even in those
                              > > applications, I have generally been able to find work-arounds that will
                              > make
                              > > ZoomText at least function with them.
                              > >
                              > > Thank you,
                              > > Have a Great Day!
                              > >
                              > > Karey Carbaugh
                              > >
                              > > --- On Wed, 1/13/10, T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com> wrote:
                              > >
                              > > From: T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com>
                              > > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                              > > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                              > > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 9:15 PM
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > > How does Zoom text work for software that you load onto your computer
                              > such
                              > > as typing drills?
                              > >
                              > > --- On Wed, 1/13/10, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com> wrote:
                              > >
                              > > From: Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com>
                              > > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                              > > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                              > > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 10:41 PM
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > > Hi John,
                              > >
                              > > I have used ZoomText for years and have 9.0 at home and 9.1 at work. I
                              > > also have a copy of 8.1 here at home too. The serial numbers are all
                              > > different and cannot be used on the other versions. First of all, you
                              > don't
                              > > want to use the same serial number on multiple computers, because after 3
                              > > installs, you will be locked out and prevented from using that serial
                              > number
                              > > again. It is intended so that you can install it on 3 different computers
                              > > for the same user, as long as those 3 computers are not used
                              > simultaneously,
                              > > but it prevents you from pirating the software on other computers. Beyond
                              > > this, the serial numbers are different for each version of ZoomText so
                              > with
                              > > the 9.1 disks, you will want to use the 9.1 serial number. That serial
                              > > number should be printed in large letters on the original envelope that
                              > the
                              > > CD was in, and I think it is also printed on other material in the box as
                              > > well as possibly on the outside box itself.
                              > >
                              > > I hope this helps. If you cannot find the serial number, AI Squared may
                              > be
                              > > able to look it up or generate a new one for you if they can verify the
                              > > user and the order.
                              > >
                              > > Thank you,
                              > > Have a Great Day!
                              > >
                              > > Karey Carbaugh
                              > >
                              > > --- On Wed, 1/13/10, John Cunniff <johncunniff@ gmail.com> wrote:
                              > >
                              > > From: John Cunniff <johncunniff@ gmail.com>
                              > > Subject: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                              > > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                              > > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 8:15 PM
                              > >
                              > >
                              > >
                              > > Today, my friend got her ZoomText that she bought from Ai Squared and
                              > > her sighted friend (staff interpreter) took my friend's laptop home with
                              > > an interpreter also with ZoomText disc, too. My friend's sighted friend
                              > > IM me to inform me that she could not activate ZoomText. She has the old
                              > > ZoomText 8.1's Serial number. I asked her why can't she activate
                              > > ZoomText, ut she told me "I don't know," oh well.
                              > >
                              > > All she did was installed ZoomText 9.1 into a brand-new laptop computer
                              > > that did not have ZoomText in it yet since the laptop was bought &
                              > > delivered into the interpreter' s house for loading & changing setting
                              > > for the low vision client.
                              > >
                              > > Is the problem because of the wrong serial number she tried to type? Or
                              > > was it because of the disk's problem or what? Can you clarify this for
                              > > me? I can help the interpreter to fix a problem. Right now, ZoomText is
                              > > forced being into a demo version for 60 days.
                              > >
                              > > Can anyone help me?
                              > >
                              > > Thank you.
                              > >
                              > > Johnny :)
                              > >
                              > > --
                              > > John Cunniff
                              > > List owns:
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                              > > List moderating:
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                              > > E-mail: johnc@shellworld. net
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                            • Bas Cancrinus
                              Hi Johnny, This clip answers all your questions: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlFRwfDhwGE Bas ... -- Bas Cancrinus Mobile: +31 (0)6 50 24 57 56 [Non-text
                              Message 14 of 27 , Jan 16, 2010
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                                Hi Johnny,

                                This clip answers all your questions:
                                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlFRwfDhwGE

                                Bas

                                On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 10:19 PM, John Cunniff <johncunniff@...>wrote:

                                >
                                >
                                > Hello, Karey & the rest who runs Windows 7...
                                >
                                > I do not use Windows 7 yet, but want to know does Windows 7 Magnifiers
                                > magnify full screen? Does it do Reverse video (found in ZoomText 9.x's
                                > Scheme menu)? I tried Windows 98's Magnifier, but it was loooooousy!! I
                                > noticed it messes up my desktop icons if I tries to stretch my window
                                > further, I think. Windows ME/XP was the same. I gave them up immediately.
                                >
                                > Thank you,
                                >
                                > Karey, I will have a great day - going to a Deaf Social at a bar 40-45
                                > minutes away from my home! :) I hope you have a great day yourself!
                                >
                                > Johnny :)
                                >
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                                > John Cunniff
                                > List owns:
                                > DBSocial, DBTechies
                                > List moderating:
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                                >
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                                >



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                              • John Cunniff
                                Bas, nice clip from YouTube. Thanks. -- John Cunniff List owns: DBSocial, DBTechies List moderating: (two private lists) E-mail: johnc@shellworld.net
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                                  Bas,

                                  nice clip from YouTube. Thanks.

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                                • T H
                                  Hello.  I downloaded Zoomtext 9.1 and was unable to use it because my laptop uses a standard  VGA display driver and was prompted to access hardware update
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                                    Hello.  I downloaded Zoomtext 9.1 and was unable to use it because my laptop uses a standard  VGA display driver and was prompted to access hardware update wizard so  that I could use the driver that came with Zoomtext.  I did not know how to access this.  I noticed that Zoomtext 9.1 is really expensive on all websites.  Where do I go to get a reasonable price?  Please let me know.  Thanks.  I have a friend that has Windorw 7 software, should I just use that becaues I keep hearing that if has better magnifiers than Windows XP.

                                    --- On Fri, 1/15/10, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@...> wrote:


                                    From: Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@...>
                                    Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                    To: magnifiers@yahoogroups.com
                                    Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 4:08 PM


                                     



                                    Hello,
                                     
                                    You're welcome, and I am in a similar situation to you.  I've used ZoomText for years and absolutely love it.  I think you will find it is much different from the Magnifier in Windows XP, though I've heard good things about the magnifier in Windows 7.  What I would recommend you try beforre purchasing ZoomText though is to go to AI Squared's website at www.aisquared. com, or the Magnifiers website at www.magnifiers. org, and you can download a demo which is the full-functioning product that will run for 30 days (I've heard that the newer versions may be longer.  This way you can try it before you buy it to see if it gives you enought added capability and also to see if it will work with your particular applications and environment.  Unlike other products, it is not a 15 minute demo that you have to re-boot every 15 minutes, or a partially functioning demo without all of the capabilities, but you get the whole product, unlimited, for at least 30
                                    days.
                                     
                                    I hope this helps.  Good luck!

                                    Thank you,
                                    Have a Great Day!

                                    Karey Carbaugh

                                    --- On Thu, 1/14/10, T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com> wrote:

                                    From: T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com>
                                    Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                    To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                                    Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 3:58 PM

                                     

                                    Thank you for your response.  I am interested in purchasing Zoomtext due to the fact that I have low vision and take online classes as well as surf the internet.  I am just not sure if it is any different from the magnifier that I have access to on Microsoft XP.

                                    --- On Thu, 1/14/10, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com> wrote:

                                    From: Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com>
                                    Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                    To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                                    Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 12:22 PM

                                     

                                    I'm not familiar with typing drills specifically, but ZoomText runs independantly form other software that you load on your computer.  As long as the software follows general accessibility standards, I have only found a few programs where ZoomText will not work properly.  Even in those applications, I have generally been able to find work-arounds that will make ZoomText at least function with them.

                                    Thank you,
                                    Have a Great Day!

                                    Karey Carbaugh

                                    --- On Wed, 1/13/10, T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com> wrote:

                                    From: T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com>
                                    Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                    To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                                    Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 9:15 PM

                                     

                                    How does Zoom text work for software that you load onto your computer such as typing drills?

                                    --- On Wed, 1/13/10, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com> wrote:

                                    From: Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com>
                                    Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                    To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                                    Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 10:41 PM

                                     

                                    Hi John,
                                     
                                    I have used ZoomText for years and have 9.0 at home and 9.1 at work.  I also have a copy of 8.1 here at home too.  The serial numbers are all different and cannot be used on the other versions.  First of all, you don't want to use the same serial number on multiple computers, because after 3 installs, you will be locked out and prevented from using that serial number again.  It is intended so that you can install it on 3 different computers for the same user, as long as those 3 computers are not used simultaneously, but it prevents you from pirating the software on other computers.  Beyond this, the serial numbers are different for each version of ZoomText so with the 9.1 disks, you will want to use the 9.1 serial number.  That serial number should be printed in large letters on the original envelope that the CD was in, and I think it is also printed on other material in the box as well as possibly on the outside box itself.
                                     
                                    I hope this helps.  If you cannot find the serial number, AI Squared may be able to look it up or generate  a new one for you if they can verify the user and the order.

                                    Thank you,
                                    Have a Great Day!

                                    Karey Carbaugh

                                    --- On Wed, 1/13/10, John Cunniff <johncunniff@ gmail.com> wrote:

                                    From: John Cunniff <johncunniff@ gmail.com>
                                    Subject: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                    To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                                    Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 8:15 PM

                                     

                                    Today, my friend got her ZoomText that she bought from Ai Squared and
                                    her sighted friend (staff interpreter) took my friend's laptop home with
                                    an interpreter also with ZoomText disc, too. My friend's sighted friend
                                    IM me to inform me that she could not activate ZoomText. She has the old
                                    ZoomText 8.1's Serial number. I asked her why can't she activate
                                    ZoomText, ut she told me "I don't know," oh well.

                                    All she did was installed ZoomText 9.1 into a brand-new laptop computer
                                    that did not have ZoomText in it yet since the laptop was bought &
                                    delivered into the interpreter' s house for loading & changing setting
                                    for the low vision client.

                                    Is the problem because of the wrong serial number she tried to type? Or
                                    was it because of the disk's problem or what? Can you clarify this for
                                    me? I can help the interpreter to fix a problem. Right now, ZoomText is
                                    forced being into a demo version for 60 days.

                                    Can anyone help me?

                                    Thank you.

                                    Johnny :)

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                                    List owns:
                                    DBSocial, DBTechies
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                                  • Karey Carbaugh
                                    Hello,   Perhaps your laptop is set to a resolution that is not supported by ZoomText.  I don t recall the list of reslolutions supported, but they should
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                                      Hello,
                                       
                                      Perhaps your laptop is set to a resolution that is not supported by ZoomText.  I don''t recall the list of reslolutions supported, but they should be available in the System Requirements on AI Squared's website.
                                       
                                      As for the pricing, it is fairly standard for single-licenses.  If you ONLY need Magnificaiton, and NOT screen reading capabilities, you may be able to just use ZoomText Level 1, which used to be alomost half the price of Levels 1 & 2 (Level 1 only is $395 and Levels 1&2 is $595 on AI Squared's website).  Level 1 is Magnification and Level 2 is Speach Screen Reading.  Also, if you don't require the speach and don't need the higher powers of magnification, AI Squared also has a product that they now called ZoomText Express, which is only $59.95 on their website.  These are all considerably less expensive than they were a couple of years ago when I purchased ZoomText Levels 1&2 for around $700.
                                       
                                      If all you need is the Magnification, and not the Screen Reading capabilities, you could definitely look in to the Windows 7 Magnifier, but I would guess that it would cost at least $395 to upgrade to Windows 7, but I haven't done that.  I would suggest you maybe look at your friend's Windows 7 machine and check out the Magnifier before upgrading your system to Windows 7.  The interface for Windows 7 is VERY different.
                                       
                                      the magnifiers.org website also has links to a number of other Professional and FREE Magnifiers which you might want to check out.  My experience, when I looked at some of the free ones a few years ago was that you definitely get what you pay for, but some of them were not bad if you're not using it 10 to 12 hours a day like I do as a programmer.
                                       
                                      I hope this helps.  The first question is do you need Screen Reading too, or just Magnification and how much magnification do you need?
                                       

                                      Thank you,
                                      Have a Great Day!

                                      Karey Carbaugh

                                      --- On Sun, 1/17/10, T H <mrstish05@...> wrote:


                                      From: T H <mrstish05@...>
                                      Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                      To: magnifiers@yahoogroups.com
                                      Date: Sunday, January 17, 2010, 9:55 AM


                                       



                                      Hello.  I downloaded Zoomtext 9.1 and was unable to use it because my laptop uses a standard  VGA display driver and was prompted to access hardware update wizard so  that I could use the driver that came with Zoomtext.  I did not know how to access this.  I noticed that Zoomtext 9.1 is really expensive on all websites.  Where do I go to get a reasonable price?  Please let me know.  Thanks.  I have a friend that has Windorw 7 software, should I just use that becaues I keep hearing that if has better magnifiers than Windows XP.

                                      --- On Fri, 1/15/10, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com> wrote:

                                      From: Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com>
                                      Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                      To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                                      Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 4:08 PM

                                       

                                      Hello,
                                       
                                      You're welcome, and I am in a similar situation to you.  I've used ZoomText for years and absolutely love it.  I think you will find it is much different from the Magnifier in Windows XP, though I've heard good things about the magnifier in Windows 7.  What I would recommend you try beforre purchasing ZoomText though is to go to AI Squared's website at www.aisquared. com, or the Magnifiers website at www.magnifiers. org, and you can download a demo which is the full-functioning product that will run for 30 days (I've heard that the newer versions may be longer.  This way you can try it before you buy it to see if it gives you enought added capability and also to see if it will work with your particular applications and environment.  Unlike other products, it is not a 15 minute demo that you have to re-boot every 15 minutes, or a partially functioning demo without all of the capabilities, but you get the whole product, unlimited, for at least 30
                                      days.
                                       
                                      I hope this helps.  Good luck!

                                      Thank you,
                                      Have a Great Day!

                                      Karey Carbaugh

                                      --- On Thu, 1/14/10, T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com> wrote:

                                      From: T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com>
                                      Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                      To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                                      Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 3:58 PM

                                       

                                      Thank you for your response.  I am interested in purchasing Zoomtext due to the fact that I have low vision and take online classes as well as surf the internet.  I am just not sure if it is any different from the magnifier that I have access to on Microsoft XP.

                                      --- On Thu, 1/14/10, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com> wrote:

                                      From: Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com>
                                      Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                      To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                                      Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 12:22 PM

                                       

                                      I'm not familiar with typing drills specifically, but ZoomText runs independantly form other software that you load on your computer.  As long as the software follows general accessibility standards, I have only found a few programs where ZoomText will not work properly.  Even in those applications, I have generally been able to find work-arounds that will make ZoomText at least function with them.

                                      Thank you,
                                      Have a Great Day!

                                      Karey Carbaugh

                                      --- On Wed, 1/13/10, T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com> wrote:

                                      From: T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com>
                                      Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                      To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                                      Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 9:15 PM

                                       

                                      How does Zoom text work for software that you load onto your computer such as typing drills?

                                      --- On Wed, 1/13/10, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com> wrote:

                                      From: Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com>
                                      Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                      To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                                      Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 10:41 PM

                                       

                                      Hi John,
                                       
                                      I have used ZoomText for years and have 9.0 at home and 9.1 at work.  I also have a copy of 8.1 here at home too.  The serial numbers are all different and cannot be used on the other versions.  First of all, you don't want to use the same serial number on multiple computers, because after 3 installs, you will be locked out and prevented from using that serial number again.  It is intended so that you can install it on 3 different computers for the same user, as long as those 3 computers are not used simultaneously, but it prevents you from pirating the software on other computers.  Beyond this, the serial numbers are different for each version of ZoomText so with the 9.1 disks, you will want to use the 9.1 serial number.  That serial number should be printed in large letters on the original envelope that the CD was in, and I think it is also printed on other material in the box as well as possibly on the outside box itself.
                                       
                                      I hope this helps.  If you cannot find the serial number, AI Squared may be able to look it up or generate  a new one for you if they can verify the user and the order.

                                      Thank you,
                                      Have a Great Day!

                                      Karey Carbaugh

                                      --- On Wed, 1/13/10, John Cunniff <johncunniff@ gmail.com> wrote:

                                      From: John Cunniff <johncunniff@ gmail.com>
                                      Subject: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                      To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                                      Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 8:15 PM

                                       

                                      Today, my friend got her ZoomText that she bought from Ai Squared and
                                      her sighted friend (staff interpreter) took my friend's laptop home with
                                      an interpreter also with ZoomText disc, too. My friend's sighted friend
                                      IM me to inform me that she could not activate ZoomText. She has the old
                                      ZoomText 8.1's Serial number. I asked her why can't she activate
                                      ZoomText, ut she told me "I don't know," oh well.

                                      All she did was installed ZoomText 9.1 into a brand-new laptop computer
                                      that did not have ZoomText in it yet since the laptop was bought &
                                      delivered into the interpreter' s house for loading & changing setting
                                      for the low vision client.

                                      Is the problem because of the wrong serial number she tried to type? Or
                                      was it because of the disk's problem or what? Can you clarify this for
                                      me? I can help the interpreter to fix a problem. Right now, ZoomText is
                                      forced being into a demo version for 60 days.

                                      Can anyone help me?

                                      Thank you.

                                      Johnny :)

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                                      List owns:
                                      DBSocial, DBTechies
                                      List moderating:
                                      (two private lists)
                                      E-mail: johnc@shellworld. net

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                                    • Karey Carbaugh
                                      Very Interesting, thanks Bas!   when I checked out the Screen Magnifier and Screen Reader found in Windows XP, I was sorely disappointed!!!!!!!!   The Screen
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                                        Very Interesting, thanks Bas!
                                         
                                        when I checked out the Screen Magnifier and Screen Reader found in Windows XP, I was sorely disappointed!!!!!!!!
                                         
                                        The Screen Magnifier allowed other windows and messages to appear (un-enlarged) on top of what was being enlarged, even in full-screen mode, and when I would get to an application that it could not enlarge, it simply displayed an un-enlarged image!  Not very helpful to someone who needs magnification as you never knew what was not being enlarged.
                                         
                                        The Screen Reader was equally useless as it would read documents to you if you were in MS Word, I think WordPad and NotePad, and other Microsoft text programs, but it would not speak Icons and menu items at all and I never tried it on the weeb, but my suspician is that it would not read web content.  Again, I was sorely disappointed!!
                                         
                                        I'm glad to hear that at least the magnification seems to be better in Windows 7, though I absolutely HATE the interface and the absense of a "classic" look!!  I guess Microsoft giveth and Microsoft taketh awasy!  They giveth a better magnifier and they taketh away features and looks that people are used to!  :(
                                         
                                        I'll be interested in checking the Magnifier and Reader out when I go to Windows 7, probably later this year at work.


                                        Thank you,
                                        Have a Great Day!

                                        Karey Carbaugh

                                        --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Bas Cancrinus <bascancr@...> wrote:


                                        From: Bas Cancrinus <bascancr@...>
                                        Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                        To: magnifiers@yahoogroups.com
                                        Date: Saturday, January 16, 2010, 4:17 PM


                                         



                                        Yes, W7 has a built-in screen reader. I don't use a screen reader, so I
                                        can't tell you how it performs.
                                        Please check it out and add your findings to this thread.

                                        On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com>wrote:

                                        >
                                        >
                                        > I'm anxious to try out Windows 7 and the built-in magnifier, but I wouldn't
                                        > throw out the ZoomText CDs quite yet. Does Windows Magnifier offer any of
                                        > the reading features of ZoomText Level 2 which will speak the screen?
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > Thank you,
                                        > Have a Great Day!
                                        >
                                        > Karey Carbaugh
                                        >
                                        > --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Bas Cancrinus <bascancr@gmail. com<bascancr%40gmail. com>>
                                        > wrote:
                                        >
                                        > From: Bas Cancrinus <bascancr@gmail. com <bascancr%40gmail. com>>
                                        >
                                        > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                        > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com <magnifiers% 40yahoogroups. com>
                                        > Date: Saturday, January 16, 2010, 6:46 AM
                                        >
                                        >
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > Forget XP and ZoomText. Go for the Windows 7 magnifier. Believe me, it's
                                        > the
                                        > best option and it's future-proof. Check out YouTube for some clips to
                                        > convince yourself.
                                        >
                                        > Bas
                                        >
                                        > On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:58 PM, T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com> wrote:
                                        >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > > Thank you for your response. I am interested in purchasing Zoomtext due
                                        > to
                                        > > the fact that I have low vision and take online classes as well as surf
                                        > the
                                        > > internet. I am just not sure if it is any different from the magnifier
                                        > that
                                        > > I have access to on Microsoft XP.
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > > --- On Thu, 1/14/10, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com<kareycarb augh%
                                        > 40yahoo.com> >
                                        > > wrote:
                                        > >
                                        > > From: Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com <kareycarbaugh%
                                        > 40yahoo.com> >
                                        >
                                        > > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                        > > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com <magnifiers% 40yahoogroups. com>
                                        >
                                        > > Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 12:22 PM
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > > I'm not familiar with typing drills specifically, but ZoomText runs
                                        > > independantly form other software that you load on your computer. As long
                                        > > as the software follows general accessibility standards, I have only
                                        > found a
                                        > > few programs where ZoomText will not work properly. Even in those
                                        > > applications, I have generally been able to find work-arounds that will
                                        > make
                                        > > ZoomText at least function with them.
                                        > >
                                        > > Thank you,
                                        > > Have a Great Day!
                                        > >
                                        > > Karey Carbaugh
                                        > >
                                        > > --- On Wed, 1/13/10, T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com> wrote:
                                        > >
                                        > > From: T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com>
                                        > > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                        > > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                                        > > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 9:15 PM
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > > How does Zoom text work for software that you load onto your computer
                                        > such
                                        > > as typing drills?
                                        > >
                                        > > --- On Wed, 1/13/10, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com> wrote:
                                        > >
                                        > > From: Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com>
                                        > > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                        > > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                                        > > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 10:41 PM
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > > Hi John,
                                        > >
                                        > > I have used ZoomText for years and have 9.0 at home and 9.1 at work. I
                                        > > also have a copy of 8.1 here at home too. The serial numbers are all
                                        > > different and cannot be used on the other versions. First of all, you
                                        > don't
                                        > > want to use the same serial number on multiple computers, because after 3
                                        > > installs, you will be locked out and prevented from using that serial
                                        > number
                                        > > again. It is intended so that you can install it on 3 different computers
                                        > > for the same user, as long as those 3 computers are not used
                                        > simultaneously,
                                        > > but it prevents you from pirating the software on other computers. Beyond
                                        > > this, the serial numbers are different for each version of ZoomText so
                                        > with
                                        > > the 9.1 disks, you will want to use the 9.1 serial number. That serial
                                        > > number should be printed in large letters on the original envelope that
                                        > the
                                        > > CD was in, and I think it is also printed on other material in the box as
                                        > > well as possibly on the outside box itself.
                                        > >
                                        > > I hope this helps. If you cannot find the serial number, AI Squared may
                                        > be
                                        > > able to look it up or generate a new one for you if they can verify the
                                        > > user and the order.
                                        > >
                                        > > Thank you,
                                        > > Have a Great Day!
                                        > >
                                        > > Karey Carbaugh
                                        > >
                                        > > --- On Wed, 1/13/10, John Cunniff <johncunniff@ gmail.com> wrote:
                                        > >
                                        > > From: John Cunniff <johncunniff@ gmail.com>
                                        > > Subject: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                        > > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                                        > > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 8:15 PM
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > >
                                        > > Today, my friend got her ZoomText that she bought from Ai Squared and
                                        > > her sighted friend (staff interpreter) took my friend's laptop home with
                                        > > an interpreter also with ZoomText disc, too. My friend's sighted friend
                                        > > IM me to inform me that she could not activate ZoomText. She has the old
                                        > > ZoomText 8.1's Serial number. I asked her why can't she activate
                                        > > ZoomText, ut she told me "I don't know," oh well.
                                        > >
                                        > > All she did was installed ZoomText 9.1 into a brand-new laptop computer
                                        > > that did not have ZoomText in it yet since the laptop was bought &
                                        > > delivered into the interpreter' s house for loading & changing setting
                                        > > for the low vision client.
                                        > >
                                        > > Is the problem because of the wrong serial number she tried to type? Or
                                        > > was it because of the disk's problem or what? Can you clarify this for
                                        > > me? I can help the interpreter to fix a problem. Right now, ZoomText is
                                        > > forced being into a demo version for 60 days.
                                        > >
                                        > > Can anyone help me?
                                        > >
                                        > > Thank you.
                                        > >
                                        > > Johnny :)
                                        > >
                                        > > --
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                                        > > List owns:
                                        > > DBSocial, DBTechies
                                        > > List moderating:
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                                      • Karey Carbaugh
                                        Johnny,   Yes, I am not on Windows 7 yet, but will soon be forced to take the plunge and the learning curve.   Sounds like some fun activities you were doing
                                        Message 19 of 27 , Jan 18, 2010
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                                          Johnny,
                                           
                                          Yes, I am not on Windows 7 yet, but will soon be forced to take the plunge and the learning curve.
                                           
                                          Sounds like some fun activities you were doing this weekend!


                                          Thank you,
                                          Have a Great Day!

                                          Karey Carbaugh

                                          --- On Sat, 1/16/10, John Cunniff <johncunniff@...> wrote:


                                          From: John Cunniff <johncunniff@...>
                                          Subject: [magnifiers] Windows 7 Magnifiers
                                          To: magnifiers@yahoogroups.com
                                          Date: Saturday, January 16, 2010, 2:19 PM


                                           



                                          Hello, Karey & the rest who runs Windows 7...

                                          I do not use Windows 7 yet, but want to know does Windows 7 Magnifiers
                                          magnify full screen? Does it do Reverse video (found in ZoomText 9.x's
                                          Scheme menu)? I tried Windows 98's Magnifier, but it was loooooousy!! I
                                          noticed it messes up my desktop icons if I tries to stretch my window
                                          further, I think. Windows ME/XP was the same. I gave them up immediately.

                                          Thank you,

                                          Karey, I will have a great day - going to a Deaf Social at a bar 40-45
                                          minutes away from my home! :) I hope you have a great day yourself!

                                          Johnny :)

                                          --
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                                          List owns:
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                                        • Bas Cancrinus
                                          Windows 7 Home Premium Upgrade *$119.99* http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/buy/default.aspx ... -- Bas Cancrinus Mobile: +31 (0)6 50 24 57 56 [Non-text portions
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                                            Windows 7 Home Premium Upgrade *$119.99*
                                            http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/buy/default.aspx

                                            On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:44 AM, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@...>wrote:

                                            >
                                            >
                                            > Hello,
                                            >
                                            > Perhaps your laptop is set to a resolution that is not supported by
                                            > ZoomText. I don''t recall the list of reslolutions supported, but they
                                            > should be available in the System Requirements on AI Squared's website.
                                            >
                                            > As for the pricing, it is fairly standard for single-licenses. If you ONLY
                                            > need Magnificaiton, and NOT screen reading capabilities, you may be able to
                                            > just use ZoomText Level 1, which used to be alomost half the price of Levels
                                            > 1 & 2 (Level 1 only is $395 and Levels 1&2 is $595 on AI Squared's
                                            > website). Level 1 is Magnification and Level 2 is Speach Screen Reading.
                                            > Also, if you don't require the speach and don't need the higher powers of
                                            > magnification, AI Squared also has a product that they now called ZoomText
                                            > Express, which is only $59.95 on their website. These are all considerably
                                            > less expensive than they were a couple of years ago when I purchased
                                            > ZoomText Levels 1&2 for around $700.
                                            >
                                            > If all you need is the Magnification, and not the Screen Reading
                                            > capabilities, you could definitely look in to the Windows 7 Magnifier, but I
                                            > would guess that it would cost at least $395 to upgrade to Windows 7, but I
                                            > haven't done that. I would suggest you maybe look at your friend's Windows
                                            > 7 machine and check out the Magnifier before upgrading your system to
                                            > Windows 7. The interface for Windows 7 is VERY different.
                                            >
                                            > the magnifiers.org website also has links to a number of other
                                            > Professional and FREE Magnifiers which you might want to check out. My
                                            > experience, when I looked at some of the free ones a few years ago was that
                                            > you definitely get what you pay for, but some of them were not bad if you're
                                            > not using it 10 to 12 hours a day like I do as a programmer.
                                            >
                                            > I hope this helps. The first question is do you need Screen Reading too,
                                            > or just Magnification and how much magnification do you need?
                                            >
                                            >
                                            >
                                            > Thank you,
                                            > Have a Great Day!
                                            >
                                            > Karey Carbaugh
                                            >
                                            > --- On Sun, 1/17/10, T H <mrstish05@... <mrstish05%40yahoo.com>>
                                            > wrote:
                                            >
                                            > From: T H <mrstish05@... <mrstish05%40yahoo.com>>
                                            > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                            > To: magnifiers@yahoogroups.com <magnifiers%40yahoogroups.com>
                                            > Date: Sunday, January 17, 2010, 9:55 AM
                                            >
                                            >
                                            >
                                            >
                                            > Hello. I downloaded Zoomtext 9.1 and was unable to use it because my
                                            > laptop uses a standard VGA display driver and was prompted to access
                                            > hardware update wizard so that I could use the driver that came with
                                            > Zoomtext. I did not know how to access this. I noticed that Zoomtext 9.1
                                            > is really expensive on all websites. Where do I go to get a reasonable
                                            > price? Please let me know. Thanks. I have a friend that has Windorw 7
                                            > software, should I just use that becaues I keep hearing that if has better
                                            > magnifiers than Windows XP.
                                            >
                                            > --- On Fri, 1/15/10, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com> wrote:
                                            >
                                            > From: Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com>
                                            > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                            > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                                            >
                                            > Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 4:08 PM
                                            >
                                            >
                                            >
                                            > Hello,
                                            >
                                            > You're welcome, and I am in a similar situation to you. I've used ZoomText
                                            > for years and absolutely love it. I think you will find it is much
                                            > different from the Magnifier in Windows XP, though I've heard good things
                                            > about the magnifier in Windows 7. What I would recommend you try beforre
                                            > purchasing ZoomText though is to go to AI Squared's website at
                                            > www.aisquared. com, or the Magnifiers website at www.magnifiers. org, and
                                            > you can download a demo which is the full-functioning product that will run
                                            > for 30 days (I've heard that the newer versions may be longer. This way you
                                            > can try it before you buy it to see if it gives you enought added capability
                                            > and also to see if it will work with your particular applications and
                                            > environment. Unlike other products, it is not a 15 minute demo that you
                                            > have to re-boot every 15 minutes, or a partially functioning demo without
                                            > all of the capabilities, but you get the whole product, unlimited, for at
                                            > least 30
                                            > days.
                                            >
                                            > I hope this helps. Good luck!
                                            >
                                            > Thank you,
                                            > Have a Great Day!
                                            >
                                            > Karey Carbaugh
                                            >
                                            > --- On Thu, 1/14/10, T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com> wrote:
                                            >
                                            > From: T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com>
                                            > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                            > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                                            > Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 3:58 PM
                                            >
                                            >
                                            >
                                            > Thank you for your response. I am interested in purchasing Zoomtext due to
                                            > the fact that I have low vision and take online classes as well as surf the
                                            > internet. I am just not sure if it is any different from the magnifier that
                                            > I have access to on Microsoft XP.
                                            >
                                            > --- On Thu, 1/14/10, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com> wrote:
                                            >
                                            > From: Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com>
                                            > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                            > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                                            > Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 12:22 PM
                                            >
                                            >
                                            >
                                            > I'm not familiar with typing drills specifically, but ZoomText runs
                                            > independantly form other software that you load on your computer. As long
                                            > as the software follows general accessibility standards, I have only found a
                                            > few programs where ZoomText will not work properly. Even in those
                                            > applications, I have generally been able to find work-arounds that will make
                                            > ZoomText at least function with them.
                                            >
                                            > Thank you,
                                            > Have a Great Day!
                                            >
                                            > Karey Carbaugh
                                            >
                                            > --- On Wed, 1/13/10, T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com> wrote:
                                            >
                                            > From: T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com>
                                            > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                            > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                                            > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 9:15 PM
                                            >
                                            >
                                            >
                                            > How does Zoom text work for software that you load onto your computer such
                                            > as typing drills?
                                            >
                                            > --- On Wed, 1/13/10, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com> wrote:
                                            >
                                            > From: Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com>
                                            > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                            > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                                            > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 10:41 PM
                                            >
                                            >
                                            >
                                            > Hi John,
                                            >
                                            > I have used ZoomText for years and have 9.0 at home and 9.1 at work. I
                                            > also have a copy of 8.1 here at home too. The serial numbers are all
                                            > different and cannot be used on the other versions. First of all, you don't
                                            > want to use the same serial number on multiple computers, because after 3
                                            > installs, you will be locked out and prevented from using that serial number
                                            > again. It is intended so that you can install it on 3 different computers
                                            > for the same user, as long as those 3 computers are not used simultaneously,
                                            > but it prevents you from pirating the software on other computers. Beyond
                                            > this, the serial numbers are different for each version of ZoomText so with
                                            > the 9.1 disks, you will want to use the 9.1 serial number. That serial
                                            > number should be printed in large letters on the original envelope that the
                                            > CD was in, and I think it is also printed on other material in the box as
                                            > well as possibly on the outside box itself.
                                            >
                                            > I hope this helps. If you cannot find the serial number, AI Squared may be
                                            > able to look it up or generate a new one for you if they can verify the
                                            > user and the order.
                                            >
                                            > Thank you,
                                            > Have a Great Day!
                                            >
                                            > Karey Carbaugh
                                            >
                                            > --- On Wed, 1/13/10, John Cunniff <johncunniff@ gmail.com> wrote:
                                            >
                                            > From: John Cunniff <johncunniff@ gmail.com>
                                            > Subject: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                            > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                                            > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 8:15 PM
                                            >
                                            >
                                            >
                                            > Today, my friend got her ZoomText that she bought from Ai Squared and
                                            > her sighted friend (staff interpreter) took my friend's laptop home with
                                            > an interpreter also with ZoomText disc, too. My friend's sighted friend
                                            > IM me to inform me that she could not activate ZoomText. She has the old
                                            > ZoomText 8.1's Serial number. I asked her why can't she activate
                                            > ZoomText, ut she told me "I don't know," oh well.
                                            >
                                            > All she did was installed ZoomText 9.1 into a brand-new laptop computer
                                            > that did not have ZoomText in it yet since the laptop was bought &
                                            > delivered into the interpreter' s house for loading & changing setting
                                            > for the low vision client.
                                            >
                                            > Is the problem because of the wrong serial number she tried to type? Or
                                            > was it because of the disk's problem or what? Can you clarify this for
                                            > me? I can help the interpreter to fix a problem. Right now, ZoomText is
                                            > forced being into a demo version for 60 days.
                                            >
                                            > Can anyone help me?
                                            >
                                            > Thank you.
                                            >
                                            > Johnny :)
                                            >
                                            > --
                                            > John Cunniff
                                            > List owns:
                                            > DBSocial, DBTechies
                                            > List moderating:
                                            > (two private lists)
                                            > E-mail: johnc@shellworld. net
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                                          • Bas Cancrinus
                                            Hi Karey, I love the W7 interface. It is more efficient, intuitive and accessible than XP or Vista. But it took me some time to get used to it. Overall W7 is a
                                            Message 21 of 27 , Jan 18, 2010
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                                              Hi Karey,

                                              I love the W7 interface. It is more efficient, intuitive and accessible than
                                              XP or Vista. But it took me some time to get used to it. Overall W7 is a
                                              solid release, like W2K was 10 years ago. And its built-in magnifier
                                              outperforms any other AT product, because it takes advantage of the GPU [
                                              http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/archive/2009/01/21/follow-up-accessibility-in-windows-7.aspx
                                              ].

                                              Thanks to the game industry we all have a powerful GPU in our machines now.
                                              I consider the W7 magnifier as a preview of the potential benefits from AT
                                              utilising the GPU.

                                              *Ai Squared, Freedom Scientific and Dolphin: now it's your turn to build the
                                              next KILLER GPU-hungry magnifier!!*

                                              Regards,
                                              Bas

                                              On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:59 AM, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@...>wrote:

                                              >
                                              >
                                              > Very Interesting, thanks Bas!
                                              >
                                              > when I checked out the Screen Magnifier and Screen Reader found in Windows
                                              > XP, I was sorely disappointed!!!!!!!!
                                              >
                                              > The Screen Magnifier allowed other windows and messages to appear
                                              > (un-enlarged) on top of what was being enlarged, even in full-screen mode,
                                              > and when I would get to an application that it could not enlarge, it simply
                                              > displayed an un-enlarged image! Not very helpful to someone who needs
                                              > magnification as you never knew what was not being enlarged.
                                              >
                                              > The Screen Reader was equally useless as it would read documents to you if
                                              > you were in MS Word, I think WordPad and NotePad, and other Microsoft text
                                              > programs, but it would not speak Icons and menu items at all and I never
                                              > tried it on the weeb, but my suspician is that it would not read web
                                              > content. Again, I was sorely disappointed!!
                                              >
                                              > I'm glad to hear that at least the magnification seems to be better in
                                              > Windows 7, though I absolutely HATE the interface and the absense of a
                                              > "classic" look!! I guess Microsoft giveth and Microsoft taketh awasy! They
                                              > giveth a better magnifier and they taketh away features and looks that
                                              > people are used to! :(
                                              >
                                              > I'll be interested in checking the Magnifier and Reader out when I go to
                                              > Windows 7, probably later this year at work.
                                              >
                                              >
                                              > Thank you,
                                              > Have a Great Day!
                                              >
                                              > Karey Carbaugh
                                              >
                                              > --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Bas Cancrinus <bascancr@...<bascancr%40gmail.com>>
                                              > wrote:
                                              >
                                              > From: Bas Cancrinus <bascancr@... <bascancr%40gmail.com>>
                                              > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                              > To: magnifiers@yahoogroups.com <magnifiers%40yahoogroups.com>
                                              > Date: Saturday, January 16, 2010, 4:17 PM
                                              >
                                              >
                                              >
                                              >
                                              > Yes, W7 has a built-in screen reader. I don't use a screen reader, so I
                                              > can't tell you how it performs.
                                              > Please check it out and add your findings to this thread.
                                              >
                                              > On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com
                                              > >wrote:
                                              >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > > I'm anxious to try out Windows 7 and the built-in magnifier, but I
                                              > wouldn't
                                              > > throw out the ZoomText CDs quite yet. Does Windows Magnifier offer any of
                                              > > the reading features of ZoomText Level 2 which will speak the screen?
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > > Thank you,
                                              > > Have a Great Day!
                                              > >
                                              > > Karey Carbaugh
                                              > >
                                              > > --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Bas Cancrinus <bascancr@...<bascancr%40gmail. com>>
                                              > > wrote:
                                              > >
                                              > > From: Bas Cancrinus <bascancr@gmail. com <bascancr%40gmail. com>>
                                              >
                                              > >
                                              > > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                              > > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com <magnifiers% 40yahoogroups. com>
                                              > > Date: Saturday, January 16, 2010, 6:46 AM
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > >
                                              > > Forget XP and ZoomText. Go for the Windows 7 magnifier. Believe me, it's
                                              > > the
                                              > > best option and it's future-proof. Check out YouTube for some clips to
                                              > > convince yourself.
                                              > >
                                              > > Bas
                                              > >
                                              > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:58 PM, T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com> wrote:
                                              > >
                                              > > >
                                              > > >
                                              > > > Thank you for your response. I am interested in purchasing Zoomtext due
                                              > > to
                                              > > > the fact that I have low vision and take online classes as well as surf
                                              > > the
                                              > > > internet. I am just not sure if it is any different from the magnifier
                                              > > that
                                              > > > I have access to on Microsoft XP.
                                              > > >
                                              > > >
                                              > > > --- On Thu, 1/14/10, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com<kareycarb
                                              > augh%
                                              > > 40yahoo.com> >
                                              > > > wrote:
                                              > > >
                                              > > > From: Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com <kareycarbaugh%
                                              > > 40yahoo.com> >
                                              > >
                                              > > > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                              > > > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com <magnifiers% 40yahoogroups. com>
                                              > >
                                              > > > Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 12:22 PM
                                              > > >
                                              > > >
                                              > > >
                                              > > >
                                              > > > I'm not familiar with typing drills specifically, but ZoomText runs
                                              > > > independantly form other software that you load on your computer. As
                                              > long
                                              > > > as the software follows general accessibility standards, I have only
                                              > > found a
                                              > > > few programs where ZoomText will not work properly. Even in those
                                              > > > applications, I have generally been able to find work-arounds that will
                                              > > make
                                              > > > ZoomText at least function with them.
                                              > > >
                                              > > > Thank you,
                                              > > > Have a Great Day!
                                              > > >
                                              > > > Karey Carbaugh
                                              > > >
                                              > > > --- On Wed, 1/13/10, T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com> wrote:
                                              > > >
                                              > > > From: T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com>
                                              > > > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                              > > > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                                              > > > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 9:15 PM
                                              > > >
                                              > > >
                                              > > >
                                              > > > How does Zoom text work for software that you load onto your computer
                                              > > such
                                              > > > as typing drills?
                                              > > >
                                              > > > --- On Wed, 1/13/10, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com> wrote:
                                              > > >
                                              > > > From: Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com>
                                              > > > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                              > > > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                                              > > > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 10:41 PM
                                              > > >
                                              > > >
                                              > > >
                                              > > > Hi John,
                                              > > >
                                              > > > I have used ZoomText for years and have 9.0 at home and 9.1 at work. I
                                              > > > also have a copy of 8.1 here at home too. The serial numbers are all
                                              > > > different and cannot be used on the other versions. First of all, you
                                              > > don't
                                              > > > want to use the same serial number on multiple computers, because after
                                              > 3
                                              > > > installs, you will be locked out and prevented from using that serial
                                              > > number
                                              > > > again. It is intended so that you can install it on 3 different
                                              > computers
                                              > > > for the same user, as long as those 3 computers are not used
                                              > > simultaneously,
                                              > > > but it prevents you from pirating the software on other computers.
                                              > Beyond
                                              > > > this, the serial numbers are different for each version of ZoomText so
                                              > > with
                                              > > > the 9.1 disks, you will want to use the 9.1 serial number. That serial
                                              > > > number should be printed in large letters on the original envelope that
                                              > > the
                                              > > > CD was in, and I think it is also printed on other material in the box
                                              > as
                                              > > > well as possibly on the outside box itself.
                                              > > >
                                              > > > I hope this helps. If you cannot find the serial number, AI Squared may
                                              > > be
                                              > > > able to look it up or generate a new one for you if they can verify the
                                              > > > user and the order.
                                              > > >
                                              > > > Thank you,
                                              > > > Have a Great Day!
                                              > > >
                                              > > > Karey Carbaugh
                                              > > >
                                              > > > --- On Wed, 1/13/10, John Cunniff <johncunniff@ gmail.com> wrote:
                                              > > >
                                              > > > From: John Cunniff <johncunniff@ gmail.com>
                                              > > > Subject: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                              > > > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                                              > > > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 8:15 PM
                                              > > >
                                              > > >
                                              > > >
                                              > > > Today, my friend got her ZoomText that she bought from Ai Squared and
                                              > > > her sighted friend (staff interpreter) took my friend's laptop home
                                              > with
                                              > > > an interpreter also with ZoomText disc, too. My friend's sighted friend
                                              > > > IM me to inform me that she could not activate ZoomText. She has the
                                              > old
                                              > > > ZoomText 8.1's Serial number. I asked her why can't she activate
                                              > > > ZoomText, ut she told me "I don't know," oh well.
                                              > > >
                                              > > > All she did was installed ZoomText 9.1 into a brand-new laptop computer
                                              > > > that did not have ZoomText in it yet since the laptop was bought &
                                              > > > delivered into the interpreter' s house for loading & changing setting
                                              > > > for the low vision client.
                                              > > >
                                              > > > Is the problem because of the wrong serial number she tried to type? Or
                                              > > > was it because of the disk's problem or what? Can you clarify this for
                                              > > > me? I can help the interpreter to fix a problem. Right now, ZoomText is
                                              > > > forced being into a demo version for 60 days.
                                              > > >
                                              > > > Can anyone help me?
                                              > > >
                                              > > > Thank you.
                                              > > >
                                              > > > Johnny :)
                                              > > >
                                              > > > --
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                                              > > > List owns:
                                              > > > DBSocial, DBTechies
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                                            • T H
                                              Thanks, this information does help me.  I just need to weigh my options that are available to me. ... From: Karey Carbaugh Subject:
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                                                Thanks, this information does help me.  I just need to weigh my options that are available to me.

                                                --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@...> wrote:


                                                From: Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@...>
                                                Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                                To: magnifiers@yahoogroups.com
                                                Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 6:44 PM


                                                 



                                                Hello,
                                                 
                                                Perhaps your laptop is set to a resolution that is not supported by ZoomText.  I don''t recall the list of reslolutions supported, but they should be available in the System Requirements on AI Squared's website.
                                                 
                                                As for the pricing, it is fairly standard for single-licenses.  If you ONLY need Magnificaiton, and NOT screen reading capabilities, you may be able to just use ZoomText Level 1, which used to be alomost half the price of Levels 1 & 2 (Level 1 only is $395 and Levels 1&2 is $595 on AI Squared's website).  Level 1 is Magnification and Level 2 is Speach Screen Reading.  Also, if you don't require the speach and don't need the higher powers of magnification, AI Squared also has a product that they now called ZoomText Express, which is only $59.95 on their website.  These are all considerably less expensive than they were a couple of years ago when I purchased ZoomText Levels 1&2 for around $700.
                                                 
                                                If all you need is the Magnification, and not the Screen Reading capabilities, you could definitely look in to the Windows 7 Magnifier, but I would guess that it would cost at least $395 to upgrade to Windows 7, but I haven't done that.  I would suggest you maybe look at your friend's Windows 7 machine and check out the Magnifier before upgrading your system to Windows 7.  The interface for Windows 7 is VERY different.
                                                 
                                                the magnifiers.org website also has links to a number of other Professional and FREE Magnifiers which you might want to check out.  My experience, when I looked at some of the free ones a few years ago was that you definitely get what you pay for, but some of them were not bad if you're not using it 10 to 12 hours a day like I do as a programmer.
                                                 
                                                I hope this helps.  The first question is do you need Screen Reading too, or just Magnification and how much magnification  do you need?
                                                 

                                                Thank you,
                                                Have a Great Day!

                                                Karey Carbaugh

                                                --- On Sun, 1/17/10, T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com> wrote:

                                                From: T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com>
                                                Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                                To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                                                Date: Sunday, January 17, 2010, 9:55 AM

                                                 

                                                Hello.  I downloaded Zoomtext 9.1 and was unable to use it because my laptop uses a standard  VGA display driver and was prompted to access hardware update wizard so  that I could use the driver that came with Zoomtext.  I did not know how to access this.  I noticed that Zoomtext 9.1 is really expensive on all websites.  Where do I go to get a reasonable price?  Please let me know.  Thanks.  I have a friend that has Windorw 7 software, should I just use that becaues I keep hearing that if has better magnifiers than Windows XP.

                                                --- On Fri, 1/15/10, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com> wrote:

                                                From: Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com>
                                                Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                                To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                                                Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 4:08 PM

                                                 

                                                Hello,
                                                 
                                                You're welcome, and I am in a similar situation to you.  I've used ZoomText for years and absolutely love it.  I think you will find it is much different from the Magnifier in Windows XP, though I've heard good things about the magnifier in Windows 7.  What I would recommend you try beforre purchasing ZoomText though is to go to AI Squared's website at www.aisquared. com, or the Magnifiers website at www.magnifiers. org, and you can download a demo which is the full-functioning product that will run for 30 days (I've heard that the newer versions may be longer.  This way you can try it before you buy it to see if it gives you enought added capability and also to see if it will work with your particular applications and environment.  Unlike other products, it is not a 15 minute demo that you have to re-boot every 15 minutes, or a partially functioning demo without all of the capabilities, but you get the whole product, unlimited, for at least 30
                                                days.
                                                 
                                                I hope this helps.  Good luck!

                                                Thank you,
                                                Have a Great Day!

                                                Karey Carbaugh

                                                --- On Thu, 1/14/10, T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com> wrote:

                                                From: T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com>
                                                Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                                To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                                                Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 3:58 PM

                                                 

                                                Thank you for your response.  I am interested in purchasing Zoomtext due to the fact that I have low vision and take online classes as well as surf the internet.  I am just not sure if it is any different from the magnifier that I have access to on Microsoft XP.

                                                --- On Thu, 1/14/10, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com> wrote:

                                                From: Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com>
                                                Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                                To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                                                Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 12:22 PM

                                                 

                                                I'm not familiar with typing drills specifically, but ZoomText runs independantly form other software that you load on your computer.  As long as the software follows general accessibility standards, I have only found a few programs where ZoomText will not work properly.  Even in those applications, I have generally been able to find work-arounds that will make ZoomText at least function with them.

                                                Thank you,
                                                Have a Great Day!

                                                Karey Carbaugh

                                                --- On Wed, 1/13/10, T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com> wrote:

                                                From: T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com>
                                                Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                                To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                                                Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 9:15 PM

                                                 

                                                How does Zoom text work for software that you load onto your computer such as typing drills?

                                                --- On Wed, 1/13/10, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com> wrote:

                                                From: Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com>
                                                Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                                To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                                                Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 10:41 PM

                                                 

                                                Hi John,
                                                 
                                                I have used ZoomText for years and have 9.0 at home and 9.1 at work.  I also have a copy of 8.1 here at home too.  The serial numbers are all different and cannot be used on the other versions.  First of all, you don't want to use the same serial number on multiple computers, because after 3 installs, you will be locked out and prevented from using that serial number again.  It is intended so that you can install it on 3 different computers for the same user, as long as those 3 computers are not used simultaneously, but it prevents you from pirating the software on other computers.  Beyond this, the serial numbers are different for each version of ZoomText so with the 9.1 disks, you will want to use the 9.1 serial number.  That serial number should be printed in large letters on the original envelope that the CD was in, and I think it is also printed on other material in the box as well as possibly on the outside box itself.
                                                 
                                                I hope this helps.  If you cannot find the serial number, AI Squared may be able to look it up or generate  a new one for you if they can verify the user and the order.

                                                Thank you,
                                                Have a Great Day!

                                                Karey Carbaugh

                                                --- On Wed, 1/13/10, John Cunniff <johncunniff@ gmail.com> wrote:

                                                From: John Cunniff <johncunniff@ gmail.com>
                                                Subject: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                                To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                                                Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 8:15 PM

                                                 

                                                Today, my friend got her ZoomText that she bought from Ai Squared and
                                                her sighted friend (staff interpreter) took my friend's laptop home with
                                                an interpreter also with ZoomText disc, too. My friend's sighted friend
                                                IM me to inform me that she could not activate ZoomText. She has the old
                                                ZoomText 8.1's Serial number. I asked her why can't she activate
                                                ZoomText, ut she told me "I don't know," oh well.

                                                All she did was installed ZoomText 9.1 into a brand-new laptop computer
                                                that did not have ZoomText in it yet since the laptop was bought &
                                                delivered into the interpreter' s house for loading & changing setting
                                                for the low vision client.

                                                Is the problem because of the wrong serial number she tried to type? Or
                                                was it because of the disk's problem or what? Can you clarify this for
                                                me? I can help the interpreter to fix a problem. Right now, ZoomText is
                                                forced being into a demo version for 60 days.

                                                Can anyone help me?

                                                Thank you.

                                                Johnny :)

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                                              • Karey Carbaugh
                                                Thanks Bas,   I m sure I ll have to get used to Windows 7 soon.  I m still not crazy about the Windows interface in general, but it is here to stay. 
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                                                  Thanks Bas,
                                                   
                                                  I"m sure I'll have to get used to Windows 7 soon.  I'm still not crazy about the Windows interface in general, but it is here to stay.  Windows looks more and more like a Mac every release!  Maybe I'm an old school programmer, but icons and widgets, WYSIWYG and pictures just don't do it for me with regard to interfaces.  I drug my heals on Win 2K until about 2003, but then made the leap.  Im just getting used to that interface, which I've been able to carry forward to XP and now I'll have to abandon it completely, but that seems to be the way of computers.
                                                   
                                                  I'm encouraged to hear that Windows 7 has better accessibility, but remain scheptical until I see it and get used to the interface, hopefully before the next generation of interfaces like what happened with me and Windows 2000/XP.
                                                   
                                                  I must pleed ignorance as I'v enot seen the acronym GPU.  Can you explain that one?  Is it Graphical Processor Unit?


                                                  Thank you,
                                                  Have a Great Day!

                                                  Karey Carbaugh

                                                  --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Bas Cancrinus <bascancr@...> wrote:


                                                  From: Bas Cancrinus <bascancr@...>
                                                  Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                                  To: magnifiers@yahoogroups.com
                                                  Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 5:44 PM


                                                   



                                                  Hi Karey,

                                                  I love the W7 interface. It is more efficient, intuitive and accessible than
                                                  XP or Vista. But it took me some time to get used to it. Overall W7 is a
                                                  solid release, like W2K was 10 years ago. And its built-in magnifier
                                                  outperforms any other AT product, because it takes advantage of the GPU [
                                                  http://blogs. msdn.com/ e7/archive/ 2009/01/21/ follow-up- accessibility- in-windows- 7.aspx
                                                  ].

                                                  Thanks to the game industry we all have a powerful GPU in our machines now.
                                                  I consider the W7 magnifier as a preview of the potential benefits from AT
                                                  utilising the GPU.

                                                  *Ai Squared, Freedom Scientific and Dolphin: now it's your turn to build the
                                                  next KILLER GPU-hungry magnifier!!*

                                                  Regards,
                                                  Bas

                                                  On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:59 AM, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com>wrote:

                                                  >
                                                  >
                                                  > Very Interesting, thanks Bas!
                                                  >
                                                  > when I checked out the Screen Magnifier and Screen Reader found in Windows
                                                  > XP, I was sorely disappointed! !!!!!!!
                                                  >
                                                  > The Screen Magnifier allowed other windows and messages to appear
                                                  > (un-enlarged) on top of what was being enlarged, even in full-screen mode,
                                                  > and when I would get to an application that it could not enlarge, it simply
                                                  > displayed an un-enlarged image! Not very helpful to someone who needs
                                                  > magnification as you never knew what was not being enlarged.
                                                  >
                                                  > The Screen Reader was equally useless as it would read documents to you if
                                                  > you were in MS Word, I think WordPad and NotePad, and other Microsoft text
                                                  > programs, but it would not speak Icons and menu items at all and I never
                                                  > tried it on the weeb, but my suspician is that it would not read web
                                                  > content. Again, I was sorely disappointed! !
                                                  >
                                                  > I'm glad to hear that at least the magnification seems to be better in
                                                  > Windows 7, though I absolutely HATE the interface and the absense of a
                                                  > "classic" look!! I guess Microsoft giveth and Microsoft taketh awasy! They
                                                  > giveth a better magnifier and they taketh away features and looks that
                                                  > people are used to! :(
                                                  >
                                                  > I'll be interested in checking the Magnifier and Reader out when I go to
                                                  > Windows 7, probably later this year at work.
                                                  >
                                                  >
                                                  > Thank you,
                                                  > Have a Great Day!
                                                  >
                                                  > Karey Carbaugh
                                                  >
                                                  > --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Bas Cancrinus <bascancr@gmail. com<bascancr%40gmail. com>>
                                                  > wrote:
                                                  >
                                                  > From: Bas Cancrinus <bascancr@gmail. com <bascancr%40gmail. com>>
                                                  > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                                  > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com <magnifiers% 40yahoogroups. com>
                                                  > Date: Saturday, January 16, 2010, 4:17 PM
                                                  >
                                                  >
                                                  >
                                                  >
                                                  > Yes, W7 has a built-in screen reader. I don't use a screen reader, so I
                                                  > can't tell you how it performs.
                                                  > Please check it out and add your findings to this thread.
                                                  >
                                                  > On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com
                                                  > >wrote:
                                                  >
                                                  > >
                                                  > >
                                                  > > I'm anxious to try out Windows 7 and the built-in magnifier, but I
                                                  > wouldn't
                                                  > > throw out the ZoomText CDs quite yet. Does Windows Magnifier offer any of
                                                  > > the reading features of ZoomText Level 2 which will speak the screen?
                                                  > >
                                                  > >
                                                  > > Thank you,
                                                  > > Have a Great Day!
                                                  > >
                                                  > > Karey Carbaugh
                                                  > >
                                                  > > --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Bas Cancrinus <bascancr@gmail. com<bascancr%40gmail. com>>
                                                  > > wrote:
                                                  > >
                                                  > > From: Bas Cancrinus <bascancr@gmail. com <bascancr%40gmail. com>>
                                                  >
                                                  > >
                                                  > > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                                  > > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com <magnifiers% 40yahoogroups. com>
                                                  > > Date: Saturday, January 16, 2010, 6:46 AM
                                                  > >
                                                  > >
                                                  > >
                                                  > >
                                                  > > Forget XP and ZoomText. Go for the Windows 7 magnifier. Believe me, it's
                                                  > > the
                                                  > > best option and it's future-proof. Check out YouTube for some clips to
                                                  > > convince yourself.
                                                  > >
                                                  > > Bas
                                                  > >
                                                  > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:58 PM, T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com> wrote:
                                                  > >
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > Thank you for your response. I am interested in purchasing Zoomtext due
                                                  > > to
                                                  > > > the fact that I have low vision and take online classes as well as surf
                                                  > > the
                                                  > > > internet. I am just not sure if it is any different from the magnifier
                                                  > > that
                                                  > > > I have access to on Microsoft XP.
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > --- On Thu, 1/14/10, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com<kareycarb
                                                  > augh%
                                                  > > 40yahoo.com> >
                                                  > > > wrote:
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > From: Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com <kareycarbaugh%
                                                  > > 40yahoo.com> >
                                                  > >
                                                  > > > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                                  > > > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com <magnifiers% 40yahoogroups. com>
                                                  > >
                                                  > > > Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 12:22 PM
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > I'm not familiar with typing drills specifically, but ZoomText runs
                                                  > > > independantly form other software that you load on your computer. As
                                                  > long
                                                  > > > as the software follows general accessibility standards, I have only
                                                  > > found a
                                                  > > > few programs where ZoomText will not work properly. Even in those
                                                  > > > applications, I have generally been able to find work-arounds that will
                                                  > > make
                                                  > > > ZoomText at least function with them.
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > Thank you,
                                                  > > > Have a Great Day!
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > Karey Carbaugh
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > --- On Wed, 1/13/10, T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com> wrote:
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > From: T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com>
                                                  > > > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                                  > > > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                                                  > > > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 9:15 PM
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > How does Zoom text work for software that you load onto your computer
                                                  > > such
                                                  > > > as typing drills?
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > --- On Wed, 1/13/10, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com> wrote:
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > From: Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com>
                                                  > > > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                                  > > > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                                                  > > > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 10:41 PM
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > Hi John,
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > I have used ZoomText for years and have 9.0 at home and 9.1 at work. I
                                                  > > > also have a copy of 8.1 here at home too. The serial numbers are all
                                                  > > > different and cannot be used on the other versions. First of all, you
                                                  > > don't
                                                  > > > want to use the same serial number on multiple computers, because after
                                                  > 3
                                                  > > > installs, you will be locked out and prevented from using that serial
                                                  > > number
                                                  > > > again. It is intended so that you can install it on 3 different
                                                  > computers
                                                  > > > for the same user, as long as those 3 computers are not used
                                                  > > simultaneously,
                                                  > > > but it prevents you from pirating the software on other computers.
                                                  > Beyond
                                                  > > > this, the serial numbers are different for each version of ZoomText so
                                                  > > with
                                                  > > > the 9.1 disks, you will want to use the 9.1 serial number. That serial
                                                  > > > number should be printed in large letters on the original envelope that
                                                  > > the
                                                  > > > CD was in, and I think it is also printed on other material in the box
                                                  > as
                                                  > > > well as possibly on the outside box itself.
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > I hope this helps. If you cannot find the serial number, AI Squared may
                                                  > > be
                                                  > > > able to look it up or generate a new one for you if they can verify the
                                                  > > > user and the order.
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > Thank you,
                                                  > > > Have a Great Day!
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > Karey Carbaugh
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > --- On Wed, 1/13/10, John Cunniff <johncunniff@ gmail.com> wrote:
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > From: John Cunniff <johncunniff@ gmail.com>
                                                  > > > Subject: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                                  > > > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                                                  > > > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 8:15 PM
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > Today, my friend got her ZoomText that she bought from Ai Squared and
                                                  > > > her sighted friend (staff interpreter) took my friend's laptop home
                                                  > with
                                                  > > > an interpreter also with ZoomText disc, too. My friend's sighted friend
                                                  > > > IM me to inform me that she could not activate ZoomText. She has the
                                                  > old
                                                  > > > ZoomText 8.1's Serial number. I asked her why can't she activate
                                                  > > > ZoomText, ut she told me "I don't know," oh well.
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > All she did was installed ZoomText 9.1 into a brand-new laptop computer
                                                  > > > that did not have ZoomText in it yet since the laptop was bought &
                                                  > > > delivered into the interpreter' s house for loading & changing setting
                                                  > > > for the low vision client.
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > Is the problem because of the wrong serial number she tried to type? Or
                                                  > > > was it because of the disk's problem or what? Can you clarify this for
                                                  > > > me? I can help the interpreter to fix a problem. Right now, ZoomText is
                                                  > > > forced being into a demo version for 60 days.
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > Can anyone help me?
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > Thank you.
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > Johnny :)
                                                  > > >
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                                                  > > > List owns:
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                                                • Bas Cancrinus
                                                  Hi Karey, From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gpu : A *graphics processing unit* or *GPU* (also occasionally called *visual processing unit* or *VPU*) is a
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                                                    Hi Karey,

                                                    From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gpu :
                                                    A *graphics processing unit* or *GPU* (also occasionally called *visual
                                                    processing unit* or *VPU*) is a specialized processor that offloads 3D
                                                    graphics rendering from the
                                                    microprocessor<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microprocessor>.
                                                    It is used in embedded systems<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embedded_system>,
                                                    mobile phones <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone>, personal
                                                    computers <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_computer>,
                                                    workstations<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workstation>,
                                                    and game consoles <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_console>. Modern GPUs
                                                    are very efficient at manipulating computer
                                                    graphics<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_graphics>,
                                                    and their highly parallel structure makes them more effective than
                                                    general-purpose CPUs
                                                    <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_processing_unit>for a range of
                                                    complex
                                                    algorithms <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algorithm>. In a personal computer,
                                                    a GPU can be present on a video card<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_card>,
                                                    or it can be on the motherboard <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motherboard>.
                                                    More than 90% of new desktop and notebook computers have integrated GPUs,
                                                    which are usually far less powerful than those on a dedicated video card.

                                                    If you prefer a shell over a GUI, check this out:
                                                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_PowerShell

                                                    Regards,
                                                    Bas

                                                    On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@...>wrote:

                                                    >
                                                    >
                                                    > Thanks Bas,
                                                    >
                                                    > I"m sure I'll have to get used to Windows 7 soon. I'm still not crazy
                                                    > about the Windows interface in general, but it is here to stay. Windows
                                                    > looks more and more like a Mac every release! Maybe I'm an old school
                                                    > programmer, but icons and widgets, WYSIWYG and pictures just don't do it for
                                                    > me with regard to interfaces. I drug my heals on Win 2K until about 2003,
                                                    > but then made the leap. Im just getting used to that interface, which I've
                                                    > been able to carry forward to XP and now I'll have to abandon it completely,
                                                    > but that seems to be the way of computers.
                                                    >
                                                    > I'm encouraged to hear that Windows 7 has better accessibility, but remain
                                                    > scheptical until I see it and get used to the interface, hopefully before
                                                    > the next generation of interfaces like what happened with me and Windows
                                                    > 2000/XP.
                                                    >
                                                    > I must pleed ignorance as I'v enot seen the acronym GPU. Can you explain
                                                    > that one? Is it Graphical Processor Unit?
                                                    >
                                                    >
                                                    > Thank you,
                                                    > Have a Great Day!
                                                    >
                                                    > Karey Carbaugh
                                                    >
                                                    > --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Bas Cancrinus <bascancr@...<bascancr%40gmail.com>>
                                                    > wrote:
                                                    >
                                                    > From: Bas Cancrinus <bascancr@... <bascancr%40gmail.com>>
                                                    > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                                    > To: magnifiers@yahoogroups.com <magnifiers%40yahoogroups.com>
                                                    > Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 5:44 PM
                                                    >
                                                    >
                                                    >
                                                    >
                                                    > Hi Karey,
                                                    >
                                                    > I love the W7 interface. It is more efficient, intuitive and accessible
                                                    > than
                                                    > XP or Vista. But it took me some time to get used to it. Overall W7 is a
                                                    > solid release, like W2K was 10 years ago. And its built-in magnifier
                                                    > outperforms any other AT product, because it takes advantage of the GPU [
                                                    > http://blogs. msdn.com/ e7/archive/ 2009/01/21/ follow-up- accessibility-
                                                    > in-windows- 7.aspx
                                                    > ].
                                                    >
                                                    > Thanks to the game industry we all have a powerful GPU in our machines now.
                                                    > I consider the W7 magnifier as a preview of the potential benefits from AT
                                                    > utilising the GPU.
                                                    >
                                                    > *Ai Squared, Freedom Scientific and Dolphin: now it's your turn to build
                                                    > the
                                                    > next KILLER GPU-hungry magnifier!!*
                                                    >
                                                    > Regards,
                                                    > Bas
                                                    >
                                                    > On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:59 AM, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com
                                                    > >wrote:
                                                    >
                                                    > >
                                                    > >
                                                    > > Very Interesting, thanks Bas!
                                                    > >
                                                    > > when I checked out the Screen Magnifier and Screen Reader found in
                                                    > Windows
                                                    > > XP, I was sorely disappointed! !!!!!!!
                                                    > >
                                                    > > The Screen Magnifier allowed other windows and messages to appear
                                                    > > (un-enlarged) on top of what was being enlarged, even in full-screen
                                                    > mode,
                                                    > > and when I would get to an application that it could not enlarge, it
                                                    > simply
                                                    > > displayed an un-enlarged image! Not very helpful to someone who needs
                                                    > > magnification as you never knew what was not being enlarged.
                                                    > >
                                                    > > The Screen Reader was equally useless as it would read documents to you
                                                    > if
                                                    > > you were in MS Word, I think WordPad and NotePad, and other Microsoft
                                                    > text
                                                    > > programs, but it would not speak Icons and menu items at all and I never
                                                    > > tried it on the weeb, but my suspician is that it would not read web
                                                    > > content. Again, I was sorely disappointed! !
                                                    > >
                                                    > > I'm glad to hear that at least the magnification seems to be better in
                                                    > > Windows 7, though I absolutely HATE the interface and the absense of a
                                                    > > "classic" look!! I guess Microsoft giveth and Microsoft taketh awasy!
                                                    > They
                                                    > > giveth a better magnifier and they taketh away features and looks that
                                                    > > people are used to! :(
                                                    > >
                                                    > > I'll be interested in checking the Magnifier and Reader out when I go to
                                                    > > Windows 7, probably later this year at work.
                                                    > >
                                                    > >
                                                    > > Thank you,
                                                    > > Have a Great Day!
                                                    > >
                                                    > > Karey Carbaugh
                                                    > >
                                                    > > --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Bas Cancrinus <bascancr@...<bascancr%40gmail. com>>
                                                    > > wrote:
                                                    > >
                                                    > > From: Bas Cancrinus <bascancr@gmail. com <bascancr%40gmail. com>>
                                                    > > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                                    > > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com <magnifiers% 40yahoogroups. com>
                                                    > > Date: Saturday, January 16, 2010, 4:17 PM
                                                    > >
                                                    > >
                                                    > >
                                                    > >
                                                    > > Yes, W7 has a built-in screen reader. I don't use a screen reader, so I
                                                    > > can't tell you how it performs.
                                                    > > Please check it out and add your findings to this thread.
                                                    > >
                                                    > > On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@
                                                    > yahoo.com
                                                    > > >wrote:
                                                    > >
                                                    > > >
                                                    > > >
                                                    > > > I'm anxious to try out Windows 7 and the built-in magnifier, but I
                                                    > > wouldn't
                                                    > > > throw out the ZoomText CDs quite yet. Does Windows Magnifier offer any
                                                    > of
                                                    > > > the reading features of ZoomText Level 2 which will speak the screen?
                                                    > > >
                                                    > > >
                                                    > > > Thank you,
                                                    > > > Have a Great Day!
                                                    > > >
                                                    > > > Karey Carbaugh
                                                    > > >
                                                    > > > --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Bas Cancrinus <bascancr@...<bascancr%40gmail. com>>
                                                    > > > wrote:
                                                    > > >
                                                    > > > From: Bas Cancrinus <bascancr@gmail. com <bascancr%40gmail. com>>
                                                    > >
                                                    > > >
                                                    > > > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                                    > > > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com <magnifiers% 40yahoogroups. com>
                                                    > > > Date: Saturday, January 16, 2010, 6:46 AM
                                                    > > >
                                                    > > >
                                                    > > >
                                                    > > >
                                                    > > > Forget XP and ZoomText. Go for the Windows 7 magnifier. Believe me,
                                                    > it's
                                                    > > > the
                                                    > > > best option and it's future-proof. Check out YouTube for some clips to
                                                    > > > convince yourself.
                                                    > > >
                                                    > > > Bas
                                                    > > >
                                                    > > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:58 PM, T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com> wrote:
                                                    > > >
                                                    > > > >
                                                    > > > >
                                                    > > > > Thank you for your response. I am interested in purchasing Zoomtext
                                                    > due
                                                    > > > to
                                                    > > > > the fact that I have low vision and take online classes as well as
                                                    > surf
                                                    > > > the
                                                    > > > > internet. I am just not sure if it is any different from the
                                                    > magnifier
                                                    > > > that
                                                    > > > > I have access to on Microsoft XP.
                                                    > > > >
                                                    > > > >
                                                    > > > > --- On Thu, 1/14/10, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com
                                                    > <kareycarb
                                                    > > augh%
                                                    > > > 40yahoo.com> >
                                                    > > > > wrote:
                                                    > > > >
                                                    > > > > From: Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com <kareycarbaugh%
                                                    > > > 40yahoo.com> >
                                                    > > >
                                                    > > > > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                                    > > > > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com <magnifiers% 40yahoogroups. com>
                                                    > > >
                                                    > > > > Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 12:22 PM
                                                    > > > >
                                                    > > > >
                                                    > > > >
                                                    > > > >
                                                    > > > > I'm not familiar with typing drills specifically, but ZoomText runs
                                                    > > > > independantly form other software that you load on your computer. As
                                                    > > long
                                                    > > > > as the software follows general accessibility standards, I have only
                                                    > > > found a
                                                    > > > > few programs where ZoomText will not work properly. Even in those
                                                    > > > > applications, I have generally been able to find work-arounds that
                                                    > will
                                                    > > > make
                                                    > > > > ZoomText at least function with them.
                                                    > > > >
                                                    > > > > Thank you,
                                                    > > > > Have a Great Day!
                                                    > > > >
                                                    > > > > Karey Carbaugh
                                                    > > > >
                                                    > > > > --- On Wed, 1/13/10, T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com> wrote:
                                                    > > > >
                                                    > > > > From: T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com>
                                                    > > > > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                                    > > > > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                                                    > > > > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 9:15 PM
                                                    > > > >
                                                    > > > >
                                                    > > > >
                                                    > > > > How does Zoom text work for software that you load onto your computer
                                                    > > > such
                                                    > > > > as typing drills?
                                                    > > > >
                                                    > > > > --- On Wed, 1/13/10, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com>
                                                    > wrote:
                                                    > > > >
                                                    > > > > From: Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com>
                                                    > > > > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                                    > > > > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                                                    > > > > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 10:41 PM
                                                    > > > >
                                                    > > > >
                                                    > > > >
                                                    > > > > Hi John,
                                                    > > > >
                                                    > > > > I have used ZoomText for years and have 9.0 at home and 9.1 at work.
                                                    > I
                                                    > > > > also have a copy of 8.1 here at home too. The serial numbers are all
                                                    > > > > different and cannot be used on the other versions. First of all, you
                                                    > > > don't
                                                    > > > > want to use the same serial number on multiple computers, because
                                                    > after
                                                    > > 3
                                                    > > > > installs, you will be locked out and prevented from using that serial
                                                    > > > number
                                                    > > > > again. It is intended so that you can install it on 3 different
                                                    > > computers
                                                    > > > > for the same user, as long as those 3 computers are not used
                                                    > > > simultaneously,
                                                    > > > > but it prevents you from pirating the software on other computers.
                                                    > > Beyond
                                                    > > > > this, the serial numbers are different for each version of ZoomText
                                                    > so
                                                    > > > with
                                                    > > > > the 9.1 disks, you will want to use the 9.1 serial number. That
                                                    > serial
                                                    > > > > number should be printed in large letters on the original envelope
                                                    > that
                                                    > > > the
                                                    > > > > CD was in, and I think it is also printed on other material in the
                                                    > box
                                                    > > as
                                                    > > > > well as possibly on the outside box itself.
                                                    > > > >
                                                    > > > > I hope this helps. If you cannot find the serial number, AI Squared
                                                    > may
                                                    > > > be
                                                    > > > > able to look it up or generate a new one for you if they can verify
                                                    > the
                                                    > > > > user and the order.
                                                    > > > >
                                                    > > > > Thank you,
                                                    > > > > Have a Great Day!
                                                    > > > >
                                                    > > > > Karey Carbaugh
                                                    > > > >
                                                    > > > > --- On Wed, 1/13/10, John Cunniff <johncunniff@ gmail.com> wrote:
                                                    > > > >
                                                    > > > > From: John Cunniff <johncunniff@ gmail.com>
                                                    > > > > Subject: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                                    > > > > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                                                    > > > > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 8:15 PM
                                                    > > > >
                                                    > > > >
                                                    > > > >
                                                    > > > > Today, my friend got her ZoomText that she bought from Ai Squared and
                                                    > > > > her sighted friend (staff interpreter) took my friend's laptop home
                                                    > > with
                                                    > > > > an interpreter also with ZoomText disc, too. My friend's sighted
                                                    > friend
                                                    > > > > IM me to inform me that she could not activate ZoomText. She has the
                                                    > > old
                                                    > > > > ZoomText 8.1's Serial number. I asked her why can't she activate
                                                    > > > > ZoomText, ut she told me "I don't know," oh well.
                                                    > > > >
                                                    > > > > All she did was installed ZoomText 9.1 into a brand-new laptop
                                                    > computer
                                                    > > > > that did not have ZoomText in it yet since the laptop was bought &
                                                    > > > > delivered into the interpreter' s house for loading & changing
                                                    > setting
                                                    > > > > for the low vision client.
                                                    > > > >
                                                    > > > > Is the problem because of the wrong serial number she tried to type?
                                                    > Or
                                                    > > > > was it because of the disk's problem or what? Can you clarify this
                                                    > for
                                                    > > > > me? I can help the interpreter to fix a problem. Right now, ZoomText
                                                    > is
                                                    > > > > forced being into a demo version for 60 days.
                                                    > > > >
                                                    > > > > Can anyone help me?
                                                    > > > >
                                                    > > > > Thank you.
                                                    > > > >
                                                    > > > > Johnny :)
                                                    > > > >
                                                    > > > > --
                                                    > > > > John Cunniff
                                                    > > > > List owns:
                                                    > > > > DBSocial, DBTechies
                                                    > > > > List moderating:
                                                    > > > > (two private lists)
                                                    > > > > E-mail: johnc@shellworld. net
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                                                    Thanks Bas,   This is interesting.  I am interested in seeing the Windows 7 magnifier and will also check out this shell link you sent. Thank you, Have a
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                                                      Thanks Bas,
                                                       
                                                      This is interesting.  I am interested in seeing the Windows 7 magnifier and will also check out this shell link you sent.


                                                      Thank you,
                                                      Have a Great Day!

                                                      Karey Carbaugh

                                                      --- On Tue, 1/19/10, Bas Cancrinus <bascancr@...> wrote:


                                                      From: Bas Cancrinus <bascancr@...>
                                                      Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                                      To: magnifiers@yahoogroups.com
                                                      Date: Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 11:00 AM


                                                       



                                                      Hi Karey,

                                                      From http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Gpu :
                                                      A *graphics processing unit* or *GPU* (also occasionally called *visual
                                                      processing unit* or *VPU*) is a specialized processor that offloads 3D
                                                      graphics rendering from the
                                                      microprocessor<http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Microprocessor>.
                                                      It is used in embedded systems<http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Embedded_ system>,
                                                      mobile phones <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Mobile_phone>, personal
                                                      computers <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Personal_ computer>,
                                                      workstations<http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Workstation>,
                                                      and game consoles <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Game_console>. Modern GPUs
                                                      are very efficient at manipulating computer
                                                      graphics<http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Computer_ graphics>,
                                                      and their highly parallel structure makes them more effective than
                                                      general-purpose CPUs
                                                      <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Central_processi ng_unit>for a range of
                                                      complex
                                                      algorithms <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Algorithm>. In a personal computer,
                                                      a GPU can be present on a video card<http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Video_card>,
                                                      or it can be on the motherboard <http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Motherboard>.
                                                      More than 90% of new desktop and notebook computers have integrated GPUs,
                                                      which are usually far less powerful than those on a dedicated video card.

                                                      If you prefer a shell over a GUI, check this out:
                                                      http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Windows_PowerShe ll

                                                      Regards,
                                                      Bas

                                                      On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com>wrote:

                                                      >
                                                      >
                                                      > Thanks Bas,
                                                      >
                                                      > I"m sure I'll have to get used to Windows 7 soon. I'm still not crazy
                                                      > about the Windows interface in general, but it is here to stay. Windows
                                                      > looks more and more like a Mac every release! Maybe I'm an old school
                                                      > programmer, but icons and widgets, WYSIWYG and pictures just don't do it for
                                                      > me with regard to interfaces. I drug my heals on Win 2K until about 2003,
                                                      > but then made the leap. Im just getting used to that interface, which I've
                                                      > been able to carry forward to XP and now I'll have to abandon it completely,
                                                      > but that seems to be the way of computers.
                                                      >
                                                      > I'm encouraged to hear that Windows 7 has better accessibility, but remain
                                                      > scheptical until I see it and get used to the interface, hopefully before
                                                      > the next generation of interfaces like what happened with me and Windows
                                                      > 2000/XP.
                                                      >
                                                      > I must pleed ignorance as I'v enot seen the acronym GPU. Can you explain
                                                      > that one? Is it Graphical Processor Unit?
                                                      >
                                                      >
                                                      > Thank you,
                                                      > Have a Great Day!
                                                      >
                                                      > Karey Carbaugh
                                                      >
                                                      > --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Bas Cancrinus <bascancr@gmail. com<bascancr%40gmail. com>>
                                                      > wrote:
                                                      >
                                                      > From: Bas Cancrinus <bascancr@gmail. com <bascancr%40gmail. com>>
                                                      > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                                      > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com <magnifiers% 40yahoogroups. com>
                                                      > Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 5:44 PM
                                                      >
                                                      >
                                                      >
                                                      >
                                                      > Hi Karey,
                                                      >
                                                      > I love the W7 interface. It is more efficient, intuitive and accessible
                                                      > than
                                                      > XP or Vista. But it took me some time to get used to it. Overall W7 is a
                                                      > solid release, like W2K was 10 years ago. And its built-in magnifier
                                                      > outperforms any other AT product, because it takes advantage of the GPU [
                                                      > http://blogs. msdn.com/ e7/archive/ 2009/01/21/ follow-up- accessibility-
                                                      > in-windows- 7.aspx
                                                      > ].
                                                      >
                                                      > Thanks to the game industry we all have a powerful GPU in our machines now.
                                                      > I consider the W7 magnifier as a preview of the potential benefits from AT
                                                      > utilising the GPU.
                                                      >
                                                      > *Ai Squared, Freedom Scientific and Dolphin: now it's your turn to build
                                                      > the
                                                      > next KILLER GPU-hungry magnifier!!*
                                                      >
                                                      > Regards,
                                                      > Bas
                                                      >
                                                      > On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:59 AM, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com
                                                      > >wrote:
                                                      >
                                                      > >
                                                      > >
                                                      > > Very Interesting, thanks Bas!
                                                      > >
                                                      > > when I checked out the Screen Magnifier and Screen Reader found in
                                                      > Windows
                                                      > > XP, I was sorely disappointed! !!!!!!!
                                                      > >
                                                      > > The Screen Magnifier allowed other windows and messages to appear
                                                      > > (un-enlarged) on top of what was being enlarged, even in full-screen
                                                      > mode,
                                                      > > and when I would get to an application that it could not enlarge, it
                                                      > simply
                                                      > > displayed an un-enlarged image! Not very helpful to someone who needs
                                                      > > magnification as you never knew what was not being enlarged.
                                                      > >
                                                      > > The Screen Reader was equally useless as it would read documents to you
                                                      > if
                                                      > > you were in MS Word, I think WordPad and NotePad, and other Microsoft
                                                      > text
                                                      > > programs, but it would not speak Icons and menu items at all and I never
                                                      > > tried it on the weeb, but my suspician is that it would not read web
                                                      > > content. Again, I was sorely disappointed! !
                                                      > >
                                                      > > I'm glad to hear that at least the magnification seems to be better in
                                                      > > Windows 7, though I absolutely HATE the interface and the absense of a
                                                      > > "classic" look!! I guess Microsoft giveth and Microsoft taketh awasy!
                                                      > They
                                                      > > giveth a better magnifier and they taketh away features and looks that
                                                      > > people are used to! :(
                                                      > >
                                                      > > I'll be interested in checking the Magnifier and Reader out when I go to
                                                      > > Windows 7, probably later this year at work.
                                                      > >
                                                      > >
                                                      > > Thank you,
                                                      > > Have a Great Day!
                                                      > >
                                                      > > Karey Carbaugh
                                                      > >
                                                      > > --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Bas Cancrinus <bascancr@gmail. com<bascancr%40gmail. com>>
                                                      > > wrote:
                                                      > >
                                                      > > From: Bas Cancrinus <bascancr@gmail. com <bascancr%40gmail. com>>
                                                      > > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                                      > > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com <magnifiers% 40yahoogroups. com>
                                                      > > Date: Saturday, January 16, 2010, 4:17 PM
                                                      > >
                                                      > >
                                                      > >
                                                      > >
                                                      > > Yes, W7 has a built-in screen reader. I don't use a screen reader, so I
                                                      > > can't tell you how it performs.
                                                      > > Please check it out and add your findings to this thread.
                                                      > >
                                                      > > On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@
                                                      > yahoo.com
                                                      > > >wrote:
                                                      > >
                                                      > > >
                                                      > > >
                                                      > > > I'm anxious to try out Windows 7 and the built-in magnifier, but I
                                                      > > wouldn't
                                                      > > > throw out the ZoomText CDs quite yet. Does Windows Magnifier offer any
                                                      > of
                                                      > > > the reading features of ZoomText Level 2 which will speak the screen?
                                                      > > >
                                                      > > >
                                                      > > > Thank you,
                                                      > > > Have a Great Day!
                                                      > > >
                                                      > > > Karey Carbaugh
                                                      > > >
                                                      > > > --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Bas Cancrinus <bascancr@gmail. com<bascancr%40gmail. com>>
                                                      > > > wrote:
                                                      > > >
                                                      > > > From: Bas Cancrinus <bascancr@gmail. com <bascancr%40gmail. com>>
                                                      > >
                                                      > > >
                                                      > > > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                                      > > > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com <magnifiers% 40yahoogroups. com>
                                                      > > > Date: Saturday, January 16, 2010, 6:46 AM
                                                      > > >
                                                      > > >
                                                      > > >
                                                      > > >
                                                      > > > Forget XP and ZoomText. Go for the Windows 7 magnifier. Believe me,
                                                      > it's
                                                      > > > the
                                                      > > > best option and it's future-proof. Check out YouTube for some clips to
                                                      > > > convince yourself.
                                                      > > >
                                                      > > > Bas
                                                      > > >
                                                      > > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:58 PM, T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com> wrote:
                                                      > > >
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > > Thank you for your response. I am interested in purchasing Zoomtext
                                                      > due
                                                      > > > to
                                                      > > > > the fact that I have low vision and take online classes as well as
                                                      > surf
                                                      > > > the
                                                      > > > > internet. I am just not sure if it is any different from the
                                                      > magnifier
                                                      > > > that
                                                      > > > > I have access to on Microsoft XP.
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > > --- On Thu, 1/14/10, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com
                                                      > <kareycarb
                                                      > > augh%
                                                      > > > 40yahoo.com> >
                                                      > > > > wrote:
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > > From: Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com <kareycarbaugh%
                                                      > > > 40yahoo.com> >
                                                      > > >
                                                      > > > > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                                      > > > > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com <magnifiers% 40yahoogroups. com>
                                                      > > >
                                                      > > > > Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 12:22 PM
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > > I'm not familiar with typing drills specifically, but ZoomText runs
                                                      > > > > independantly form other software that you load on your computer. As
                                                      > > long
                                                      > > > > as the software follows general accessibility standards, I have only
                                                      > > > found a
                                                      > > > > few programs where ZoomText will not work properly. Even in those
                                                      > > > > applications, I have generally been able to find work-arounds that
                                                      > will
                                                      > > > make
                                                      > > > > ZoomText at least function with them.
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > > Thank you,
                                                      > > > > Have a Great Day!
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > > Karey Carbaugh
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > > --- On Wed, 1/13/10, T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com> wrote:
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > > From: T H <mrstish05@yahoo. com>
                                                      > > > > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                                      > > > > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                                                      > > > > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 9:15 PM
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > > How does Zoom text work for software that you load onto your computer
                                                      > > > such
                                                      > > > > as typing drills?
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > > --- On Wed, 1/13/10, Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com>
                                                      > wrote:
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > > From: Karey Carbaugh <kareycarbaugh@ yahoo.com>
                                                      > > > > Subject: Re: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                                      > > > > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                                                      > > > > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 10:41 PM
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > > Hi John,
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > > I have used ZoomText for years and have 9.0 at home and 9.1 at work.
                                                      > I
                                                      > > > > also have a copy of 8.1 here at home too. The serial numbers are all
                                                      > > > > different and cannot be used on the other versions. First of all, you
                                                      > > > don't
                                                      > > > > want to use the same serial number on multiple computers, because
                                                      > after
                                                      > > 3
                                                      > > > > installs, you will be locked out and prevented from using that serial
                                                      > > > number
                                                      > > > > again. It is intended so that you can install it on 3 different
                                                      > > computers
                                                      > > > > for the same user, as long as those 3 computers are not used
                                                      > > > simultaneously,
                                                      > > > > but it prevents you from pirating the software on other computers.
                                                      > > Beyond
                                                      > > > > this, the serial numbers are different for each version of ZoomText
                                                      > so
                                                      > > > with
                                                      > > > > the 9.1 disks, you will want to use the 9.1 serial number. That
                                                      > serial
                                                      > > > > number should be printed in large letters on the original envelope
                                                      > that
                                                      > > > the
                                                      > > > > CD was in, and I think it is also printed on other material in the
                                                      > box
                                                      > > as
                                                      > > > > well as possibly on the outside box itself.
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > > I hope this helps. If you cannot find the serial number, AI Squared
                                                      > may
                                                      > > > be
                                                      > > > > able to look it up or generate a new one for you if they can verify
                                                      > the
                                                      > > > > user and the order.
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > > Thank you,
                                                      > > > > Have a Great Day!
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > > Karey Carbaugh
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > > --- On Wed, 1/13/10, John Cunniff <johncunniff@ gmail.com> wrote:
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > > From: John Cunniff <johncunniff@ gmail.com>
                                                      > > > > Subject: [magnifiers] ZoomText 8.1 to 9.1
                                                      > > > > To: magnifiers@yahoogro ups.com
                                                      > > > > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 8:15 PM
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > > Today, my friend got her ZoomText that she bought from Ai Squared and
                                                      > > > > her sighted friend (staff interpreter) took my friend's laptop home
                                                      > > with
                                                      > > > > an interpreter also with ZoomText disc, too. My friend's sighted
                                                      > friend
                                                      > > > > IM me to inform me that she could not activate ZoomText. She has the
                                                      > > old
                                                      > > > > ZoomText 8.1's Serial number. I asked her why can't she activate
                                                      > > > > ZoomText, ut she told me "I don't know," oh well.
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > > All she did was installed ZoomText 9.1 into a brand-new laptop
                                                      > computer
                                                      > > > > that did not have ZoomText in it yet since the laptop was bought &
                                                      > > > > delivered into the interpreter' s house for loading & changing
                                                      > setting
                                                      > > > > for the low vision client.
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > > Is the problem because of the wrong serial number she tried to type?
                                                      > Or
                                                      > > > > was it because of the disk's problem or what? Can you clarify this
                                                      > for
                                                      > > > > me? I can help the interpreter to fix a problem. Right now, ZoomText
                                                      > is
                                                      > > > > forced being into a demo version for 60 days.
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > > Can anyone help me?
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > > Thank you.
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > > Johnny :)
                                                      > > > >
                                                      > > > > --
                                                      > > > > John Cunniff
                                                      > > > > List owns:
                                                      > > > > DBSocial, DBTechies
                                                      > > > > List moderating:
                                                      > > > > (two private lists)
                                                      > > > > E-mail: johnc@shellworld. net
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